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- August 10, 2013 at 16:05 #24553
The much vaunted "Greatest Horse In The World" met defeat for the third successive time this season. Dropped to Gp3 company at Deauville he went off 4/5 favourite but could finish only second.
After being reported as 60% fit for his seasonal debut and then said to still have needed his second run behind Novellist at Ascot, can they really use that excuse again after today?
Has age caught up with him, or is the trainer simply unable to turn him out ready to perform to something remotely like the best equine talent on the planet?
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
August 10, 2013 at 17:59 #4480481m 2f on soft ground is his ideal conditions but, even allowing for the ground, today was disappointing.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"August 10, 2013 at 19:10 #448053He’s just not the same horse. The Cirrus of last year would have murdered that field. It does get more difficult to recover from injury setbacks with age I believe, so I would probably say it’s due to a combination of age and setbacks. But, I would not completely bury him just yet even though his runs this season have been so far quite worrying.
August 10, 2013 at 19:34 #448055CDA looks like a beaten horse now, and just doesn’t seem to run on anymore. IMO Mme C Barande-Barbe is deluded in thinking that the horse is still improving, and that he ran a good race today.
August 10, 2013 at 20:33 #448063As he’s with a trainer who, by her own admission, can’t get a horse fit for a race as important as the King George on its second outing of the season, it doesn’t much matter whether he has deteriorated or not.

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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"August 11, 2013 at 10:44 #448095Would this be the baron of basingstoke ….by any chance
Ricky!!!
August 11, 2013 at 22:46 #448160No, Mr Lake, I refer to a French gelding called Cirrus Des Aigles, whose trainer is confident will be fully fit come the 2014 Champion Hurdle – she just needs to get another ten runs into him to get him spot on.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"August 11, 2013 at 22:56 #448161Got a bit excited when I saw the ID name, but looks like it’s just someone taking the name of our Lord in vain. And on a Sunday as well
August 11, 2013 at 23:03 #448165I was confused Myself, Mr Pilsen, not least because I do not know of a horse in training called Baron Of Basingstoke plus I think that, at 20 characters, it is too long a name to be accepted by the BHA?
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"August 11, 2013 at 23:08 #448166Ricky was referring to Ian Davies, as you well know. Who are you? I would have said that moron Mr. Wilson but your grammar is too good for you to be him.
August 11, 2013 at 23:13 #448169My name is Ian Davies, Mr Pilsen – who are you?
I don’t know who Mr Wilson is, but thank you for complimenting my grammar.

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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"August 11, 2013 at 23:20 #448171I always think that a bit of narcissistic back slapping, and "in the know " quips are the best way to stimulate a healthy forum debate.
You can give each other a call or e-mail each other guysAugust 11, 2013 at 23:26 #448173I always think that a bit of narcissistic back slapping, and "in the know " quips are the best way to stimulate a healthy forum debate.
You can give each other a call or e-mail each other guysJust tried to call big
August 11, 2013 at 23:28 #448174If I was ”in the know,” Coggy, I would!

I agree with you, though – the thread is going off-topic.
Joking aside, I don’t want to knock Cirrus Des Aigle’s trainer but, in an era when trainers can get double-digit age staying chasers ready to run for their lives after a year off the track it has to be a BIT disappointing she’s still talking about ”needing the run” after the horse gets beaten in a race as important as the King George on its second run of the year.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"August 12, 2013 at 10:30 #448188If I was ”in the know,” Coggy, I would!

I agree with you, though – the thread is going off-topic.
Joking aside, I don’t want to knock Cirrus Des Aigle’s trainer but, in an era when trainers can get double-digit age staying chasers ready to run for their lives after a year off the track it has to be a BIT disappointing she’s still talking about ”needing the run” after the horse gets beaten in a race as important as the King George on its second run of the year.
Yeah, but in her heart of hearts, does she really believe it??
Probably not. She has already more than proven her ability to train this horse to the highest level.I heard somewhere that coming back from his trip abroad at the end last year, he looked a shell of horse and lost all condition. I heard this before the King George run. I just wonder whether that has left a mark or whether age has worked its poisonous magic?
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October 5, 2013 at 19:42 #453736Hit form and looked much better today and now 4/1 top price favourite for the Champion stakes. I’ve got 16’s in gingers Ante Post comp so will wish him well………

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