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You obviously don’t know about all green then but you do know about wine…….too much wine we thinks.
My bookie taught me this and it works a dream.
I make it easy for you.
100 at 8 = 800
you want to lay the horse back at 2 so you simply divide the 800 by 2 and that’s the stake 400 you place to lose.
Your profit is take away your stake at 8 to the amount you placed on the lay bet
400 – 100 = 300 and no matter what you are 300 in profit.
Get to that point and you couldn’t give a rats ass if the horse wins or stops for a piss
I was thinking of adding the following to my profile so I can have those words of wisdom along the bottom of each post like other members Gord. What do you think?: "If anyone tells you Go Native won’t run it doesn’t mean he wont be in the race"
Fist al be the first guy on here to say your right if Binoculer blows them away,But hes let me down the last twice in the champion and the fifth,I did hear hendo didnt get all the work into him leading up to the champion,but youl find ignore Go Native at your pearl.
Binocular is the class horse and should win this if anywhere near approaching his best. However, Go Native quickened really well in the Fighting Fifth and looked quite impressive that day.
I shall wait closer to race time before deciding which one to be on.
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"If anyone tells you Go Native won’t run it doesn’t mean he wont be in the race"
Love it,thats pretty original coming from you!How many hours did it take to think that little gem up?
You obviously don’t know about all green then but you do know about wine…….too much wine we thinks.
My bookie taught me this and it works a dream.
I make it easy for you.
100 at 8 = 800
you want to lay the horse back at 2 so you simply divide the 800 by 2 and that’s the stake 400 you place to lose.
Your profit is take away your stake at 8 to the amount you placed on the lay bet
400 – 100 = 300 and no matter what you are 300 in profit.
Get to that point and you couldn’t give a rats ass if the horse wins or stops for a piss
I am as sober as a judge now Fist,but i confess i haven"t got a clue what you are on about there mate!Particularly the "Green" bit!
This is how i lay a horse on Betfair,e,g Kauto star for the King George at 4/6.I would simply type in £60 in the Lay box and my liability would show £40 loss,should he win.If he loses then i win whatever my stake is,in this case £60,Simple like me! What i do most though is back a horse at a big price Ante-Post say at 65,watch it gradually come in over the weeks/months ahead,wait until its single figures and lay a small amount off to cover my stake,should it not run close to the day.My favourite bet is to back something in the morning at around 10/1 and lay it in running at as short as possible,even at odds on,this requires as much luck as it does skill though,the skill is to find a horse that you know travels but finds nothing off the bridle,that way its price is always short in running!The thought of laying something bigger than 2/1 scares me!- Total Posts 17716
Fist al be the first guy on here to say your right if Binoculer blows them away,But hes let me down the last twice in the champion and the fifth,I did hear hendo didnt get all the work into him leading up to the champion,but youl find ignore Go Native at your pearl.
whatever!..not missed any leading up to this so there can be no excuses. Latest I heard he did a piece of work the other day and he wasn’t catching pigeons he was passing them
…he’ll absolutely hack up wait and see.- Total Posts 17716
You obviously don’t know about all green then but you do know about wine…….too much wine we thinks.
My bookie taught me this and it works a dream.
I make it easy for you.
100 at 8 = 800
you want to lay the horse back at 2 so you simply divide the 800 by 2 and that’s the stake 400 you place to lose.
Your profit is take away your stake at 8 to the amount you placed on the lay bet
400 – 100 = 300 and no matter what you are 300 in profit.
Get to that point and you couldn’t give a rats ass if the horse wins or stops for a piss
I am as sober as a judge now Fist,but i confess i haven"t got a clue what you are on about there mate!Particularly the "Green" bit!
This is how i lay a horse on Betfair,e,g Kauto star for the King George at 4/6.I would simply type in £60 in the Lay box and my liability would show £40 loss,should he win.If he loses then i win whatever my stake is,in this case £60,Simple like me! What i do most though is back a horse at a big price Ante-Post say at 65,watch it gradually come in over the weeks/months ahead,wait until its single figures and lay a small amount off to cover my stake,should it not run close to the day.My favourite bet is to back something in the morning at around 10/1 and lay it in running at as short as possible,even at odds on,this requires as much luck as it does skill though,the skill is to find a horse that you know travels but finds nothing off the bridle,that way its price is always short in running!The thought of laying something bigger than 2/1 scares me!Don’t know where all green came from but it simply means all go for you……nothing can stop you winning.
Take Denman who I backed at 8/1 or 9 it would be on Betfair
Lets say I have 2000 pound on
He is currenly 3.25 to lay and I decide I want to cash in.
I don’t know if he will lose I don’t know if he will lose I don’t even know if he will turn up.
But I don’t have to know any of that.
2000 X 9 divided by the lay price tells me what stake I need to lay of to put me in an all green situation.
It’s just one of these mathematical caculations used by pro punters that always works out.
in this case 2,000 X 9 = 18,000 divided by the lay price of 3.25 = 5,538.46
So I lay 5538.46 x 3.25 your liability or possible loss is 5538.46 X 3.25 less 5538.46 (your lay stake) 12,461.54
So if he wins I win 2000 x 8 = 16,000 less your liability loss of 12,461.54 so you walk away with 3,538.46 clear profit
If he loses I win 5,538.46 less my original stake of 2000 which is 3,538.46 exactly the same amount as I would if he had won.
It may seem complicated but you can tell instantly how much to stake and exactly how much you will win.
When you use this calculation Stake X Price divided by lay price gives you your lay stake.
The calculation again was: 2,000 X 9 = 18,000 divided by the lay price of 3.25 = 5,538.46
If you deduct your stake 2000 from your lay stake 5,538.46 you know what you are going to win immediatly 3,538.46
Never fails and as simple as ABC.
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I agree with Darren
I agree too, but should and will are a different proposition. He’s not for me until he starts doing what he ‘should’.
Don’t know where all green came from but it simply means all go for you……nothing can stop you winning.
Take Denman who I backed at 8/1 or 9 it would be on Betfair
Lets say I have 2000 pound on
He is currenly 3.25 to lay and I decide I want to cash in.
I don’t know if he will lose I don’t know if he will lose I don’t even know if he will turn up.
But I don’t have to know any of that.
2000 X 9 divided by the lay price tells me what stake I need to lay of to put me in an all green situation.
It’s just one of these mathematical caculations used by pro punters that always works out.
in this case 2,000 X 9 = 18,000 divided by the lay price of 3.25 = 5,538.46
So I lay 5538.46 x 3.25 your liability or possible loss is 5538.46 X 3.25 less 5538.46 (your lay stake) 12,461.54
So if he wins I win 2000 x 8 = 16,000 less your liability loss of 12,461.54 so you walk away with 3,538.46 clear profit
If he loses I win 5,538.46 less my original stake of 2000 which is 3,538.46 exactly the same amount as I would if he had won.
It may seem complicated but you can tell instantly how much to stake and exactly how much you will win.
When you use this calculation Stake X Price divided by lay price gives you your lay stake.
The calculation again was: 2,000 X 9 = 18,000 divided by the lay price of 3.25 = 5,538.46
If you deduct your stake 2000 from your lay stake 5,538.46 you know what you are going to win immediatly 3,538.46
Never fails and as simple as ABC.
If i play to the above figures Fist, my way, i have £2000 on at 9,that gives me £16000 profit if he wins,i can lay £4250 at 3.25 that would equal £13812.5,deduct that from £16000 and my profit becomes £2187.5 if he wins,if he loses i make a profit of £2250, so win or lose i am making a lot less than you!!Something doesn"t add up somewhere! Simple as ABC my Ar*e!
TAPK laying £4250 at 3.25 introduced a liability of £9562.50 not £13812.50.
Well spotted Milbear0,bloody equivalent to 9/4,i shall do the Maths again,just gimme another 3hrs!Fist would never have spotted the obvious mistake?
Don’t know where all green came from but it simply means all go for you……nothing can stop you winning.
Take Denman who I backed at 8/1 or 9 it would be on Betfair
Lets say I have 2000 pound on
He is currenly 3.25 to lay and I decide I want to cash in.
I don’t know if he will lose I don’t know if he will lose I don’t even know if he will turn up.
But I don’t have to know any of that.
2000 X 9 divided by the lay price tells me what stake I need to lay of to put me in an all green situation.
It’s just one of these mathematical caculations used by pro punters that always works out.
in this case 2,000 X 9 = 18,000 divided by the lay price of 3.25 = 5,538.46
So I lay 5538.46 x 3.25 your liability or possible loss is 5538.46 X 3.25 less 5538.46 (your lay stake) 12,461.54
So if he wins I win 2000 x 8 = 16,000 less your liability loss of 12,461.54 so you walk away with 3,538.46 clear profit
If he loses I win 5,538.46 less my original stake of 2000 which is 3,538.46 exactly the same amount as I would if he had won.
It may seem complicated but you can tell instantly how much to stake and exactly how much you will win.
When you use this calculation Stake X Price divided by lay price gives you your lay stake.
The calculation again was: 2,000 X 9 = 18,000 divided by the lay price of 3.25 = 5,538.46
If you deduct your stake 2000 from your lay stake 5,538.46 you know what you are going to win immediatly 3,538.46
Never fails and as simple as ABC.
Simple as ABC mate,just done the maths again,bang on,i shall remember that!
I’d like to ask all those that think Starluck is a good bet, what happened at Aintree? Wasn’t that the day he was going to confirm how much better he was than the result at Cheltenham?
For me his form is a stone or so below that of the first 2 in the betting and he’s too short and I still have reservations about what he’ll find off the bridle. He’s never yet won a race over jumps when he’s come off it.
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