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Grayson….you seem to have a better handle on UK points that I do I wonder if you’ll comment on Rash Move who (IMO) ran well until lack of condition and a long lay of took its toll last time out. RP forecast 14-1 tomorrow which looks a decent EW considering he’s 4 out of 6 in points
Rider Fred Hutsby is not always an asset, and I saw him take two pretty soft falls at Whitfield a month ago, but I also saw Rash Move’s penultimate run at Dunthrop in March 2008 (the last before his lay-off) in person and Hutsby conjoured a superb round out of him then.
After standing for a couple of terrible rides from Jamie Codd this season (one got him 5 days off) I make allowances for most amateurs, I seem to recall Fred Hutsby being one of the more reliable
His layoff might have done him a favour, actually, as form and health both deserted the Hutsby string last term, but they seem to be in better order this.
The
Mackenzie and Harris
annual for that year commented that Rash Move "must have sub-3m hunter chase aspirations". They also noted that he is a martyr to shin trouble, so let’s hope he doesn’t suffer a reverse at home or on course. If he’s back to his best, then yeah, I wouldn’t put you off EW.
No, in fact you’ve convinced me to go for him but only for a smallish stakes EW, thanks for the info, there doesn’t seen to be many of us follow pointing/cross country races, I’ve found them great fun and a real earner over many years, especially this year by backing mulitpule winning pointers without much or any Hunter Chase form …. missed a few though, too…. Chesnut Annie being a spectacular example!
Mustangsallyrally rates my incredibly boring choice of winner, though.
Certainly looks that way (except the boring bit
) and you’ll most probably be proved right but he doesn’t fit the profile for my betting. I rarely back hunters with as much (unspectacular) regulation form and prefer the unexposed pointers His second in one of the best recent renewals of the Coronation Cup at Larkhill last time (rightly described by Jonathan Neesom in his Spotlight Verdict as "a point that was much stronger than many hunter chases") is by some margin the best bit of form any of these has achieved so far this term.
I found something similar in a google search, said the race was one of the most competative points for some time. On the subject of strong points, do you keep abreast with Irish form, just wondered how highly you rate An Siorrac?
gc
Grayson….you seem to have a better handle on UK points that I do I wonder if you’ll comment on Rash Move who (IMO) ran well until lack of condition and a long lay of took its toll last time out. RP forecast 14-1 tomorrow which looks a decent EW considering he’s 4 out of 6 in points
Rider Fred Hutsby is not always an asset, and I saw him take two pretty soft falls at Whitfield a month ago, but I also saw Rash Move’s penultimate run at Dunthrop in March 2008 (the last before his lay-off) in person and Hutsby conjoured a superb round out of him then.
After standing for a couple of terrible rides from the usually highly reliable Jamie Codd this season (one got him 5 days off) I make allowances for most amateurs, I seem to recall Fred Hutsby being one of the more reliable
His layoff might have done him a favour, actually, as form and health both deserted the Hutsby string last term, but they seem to be in better order this.
The
Mackenzie and Harris
annual for that year commented that Rash Move "must have sub-3m hunter chase aspirations". They also noted that he is a martyr to shin trouble, so let’s hope he doesn’t suffer a reverse at home or on course. If he’s back to his best, then yeah, I wouldn’t put you off EW.
No, in fact you’ve convinced me to go for him but only for a smallish stakes EW, thanks for the info, there doesn’t seen to be many of us follow pointing/cross country races, I’ve found them great fun and a real earner over many years, especially this year by backing mulitpule winning pointers without much or any Hunter Chase form …. missed a few though, too…. Chesnut Annie being a spectacular example!
Mustangsallyrally rates my incredibly boring choice of winner, though.
Certainly looks that way (except the boring bit
) and you’ll most probably be proved right but he doesn’t fit the profile for my betting. I rarely back hunters with as much (unspectacular) regulation form and prefer the unexposed pointers His second in one of the best recent renewals of the Coronation Cup at Larkhill last time (rightly described by Jonathan Neesom in his Spotlight Verdict as "a point that was much stronger than many hunter chases") is by some margin the best bit of form any of these has achieved so far this term.
I found something similar in a google search, said the race was one of the most competative points for some time. On the subject of strong points, do you keep abreast with Irish form, just wondered how highly you rate An Siorrac?
gc
WOW!!!!>>>>>>RASH MOVE 33-1 Hosed home You heard it here first! Won like a long odds on shot! I’d a decent bet on him too!
Grayson, do you know if that qualifies him for The Foxhunters? If he jumped like that at The Festival he’d have a lot of the field on the deck long before the third last
Another possible condender for the Foxhunters is GENTLE GEORGE who runs tomorrow at Sandown. On a line through We’re Confused he comes out equal with Cappa Bleu, both beat We’re Confused by 10 lengths. Looks nailed on ew tomorrow at 4-1 (RP Forescast)
WOW!!!!>>>>>>RASH MOVE 33-1 Hosed home You heard it here first! Won like a long odds on shot! I’d a decent bet on him too!
Grayson, do you know if that qualifies him for The Foxhunters? If he jumped like that at The Festival he’d have a lot of the field on the deck long before the third last
Good man, well persevered! Had just a couple of shekels on myself once it’d become apparent that underfoot conditions weren’t going to be anywhere close to good, but nothing of the magnitude of your bet, I’m sensing.
Sadly, this doesn’t grant him Foxhunters qualification, for whilst this three wins in 2008 are still within range, they were all recorded in too low grade – Restricted, Intermediate and finally Confined.
Gentle George’s Huntingdon win last week and Leicester second last term have already qualified him, so a win tomorrow isn’t crucial. He’s still being sent there to win, though, as Steve Flook buys horses specifically to win hunter chases for him – if they can’t, they’re often not long in being sold on again.
I can’t believe Newbury won’t suit him better than Huntingdon – there was the odd tardy leap last time, but that’s possibility an inevitability when sending an 18hh horse around a course not especially conducive to long-striding types.
Flook frequently buys smallish, nippy sorts so that he can farm hunter chases around the Ludlows of this world, so Gentle George is a very untypical sort of animal for him, but so far he seems to be managing him pretty well. If he’s got any big track performer in his string at present, this is definitely the one.
gc
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Grayson
Glad to hear you were on too. He was very impressive, it was obvious he was going to win from a very long way out.
I actually ended up with double my original planned stake…long story but I couldn’t be more pleased, especially with the 33-1, I honestly thought he’d be less than the 14-1 forecast.
Thanks too for the confimation, your opinions on his chances helped swayed me. Same with Gentle George tomorrow, I’ll definatly be on.
As he’s a huge horse Newbury should be perfect, Mill House, Denman etc etcYou might want to look at Outlaw Pete in the Hunter at Gowran Park on Saturday, I’ve a feeling he may over next year for The Foxhunters or one of The Cross Country races
Nice to see some old stagers in good form but less so that the field looks like it could be a kim muir field from a few years ago.
I can remember when the foxhunters was something different with horses you’d hardly heard of apart from the two televised finals at Stratford and the two foxhunters .
Must be me getting old .Gentle George sure has a big heart in that huge frame, I would have been very happy to settle for a place coming to the last, Oliver Greenall had been niggling him for some time.
This fellow must be a contender for The Foxhunters on the form lines to Cappa BleuGentle George sure has a big heart in that huge frame, I would have been very happy to settle for a place coming to the last, Oliver Greenall had been niggling him for some time.
This fellow must be a contender for The Foxhunters on the form lines to Cappa Bleugoing to back him after todays efforts, looks a out and out galloper and stayed on for pressure really well the only question i have with him is will greenall stay on board ?
The race is looking very interesting, I’ll be looking for an up an coming pointer not an older horse although Dun Doire is tempting, winning course form, best jockey by miles.
I’m hoping my current Hunter hot streak holds till the Foxhunters!!Would take a very close look at Reach For The Top who beat Folkestone’s HC winner very easily in an Open a few weeks ago – looks a good price at 100/1.
Just found the entries on line, if the winner doesn’t come from the five below then I know nothing about Hunter Chasing
SERICINA
GENTLE GEORGE
KILTY STORM
DUN DOIRE
CEDRUS LIBANII think this race badly needs a boost in quality. I can go back to the days of Chris Collins and Bill Shand Kydd who used to race high quality horses such as Credit Call and Matchboard in hunter chases. These days the vast majority of decent young pointers are sold or enter training at a young age. After that there is not a great deal left and in terms of quality I would sooner watch a point-to-point bumper.
going to back him after todays efforts, looks a out and out galloper and stayed on for pressure really well the only question i have with him is will greenall stay on board ?
A fair question, actually, as Ollie could easily be prigged for either of the Richard Barber pair of Trust Fund and Le Duc (unless any two of Tom Greenall, Nick Williams and Ryan Mahon are already inked in).
That might not be the only race during the week where someone who wants Ollie won’t get him – didn’t Alan Jones make no secret of the fact after Qhilimar’s Newbury win that he was his first choice of rider for the gelding in the Kim Muir?
Gentle George was, of course, partnered by Richard Burton at Huntingdon, and whilst he’s a premier league hunter chase / point rider class at the best of times, he’s been in blinding form so far this winter (the aberration on Oscar D’Angron excepted!), with his treble at Horseheath last Saturday his second of a weather-ravaged campaign already.
Unfortunately for fans of the Flook gelding, though, I can’t believe Burton would take the ride on him if the line-up also includes Cedrus Libani for Angela and William Rucker, owners of course of Cappa Bleu and providers of many pointing rides for Burton (including one leg of that treble last week). Mrs Rucker rides a lot of her string in Ladies Opens, too, but as a substitute for Burton she doesn’t match up – she’s not far removed in terms of years from Val Jackson, and I’d also favour the latter in a finish, I think.
No, assuming neither Ollie Greenall nor Richard Burton are available, I reckon the next likeliest to get the leg-up would be Paul Tolman, Adrian Wintle or the singular Dave Mansell, judged on the last few years’ bookings by Flook.
gc
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No Roulez Cool???
Probably not for me now. He’s one of the very few genuine class acts in the contest, but best price 7-2 about a horse still to take on a properly undulating track in the heat of battle is insanely short to me.
At 33-1, last year’s Connollys Red Mills Intermediate Final winner Drybrook Bedouin looks overpriced to me, not least with effectiveness over the New Course duly proven.
gc
Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.
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