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I’m sure everyone, footie fan or not, would have heard about what happened to Christian Ericksen yesterday.
Thankfully due to the quick intervention of the medics and, especially, team mate and captain Simon Kjær he lives to tell the tale.
Kjær has, quite rightly, come in for a lot of praise for his quick thinking but I wonder how many of those praising him would know what to do if they came across someone collapsed or in cardiac arrest?
Thankfully first aid training is, belatedly, part of the national curriculum better late then never, so going forward we will have a nation better equipped to deal with life threatening situations.
Would you know how to give CPR if you came across someone collapsed in the street?
Did you know bystander CPR increases the chances of an out of hospital collapsed person reaching hospital alive from 14.6% to 22.9% and leaving hospital alive from 4.7% to 11.9% ? In both cases slim chances but still much improved. (If an AED is available for use the chances of getting to hospital alive increase to 54%)
I know some people are squeamish because it used to be called “mouth to mouth” and don’t like the idea of getting up close and personal with a stranger – that’s a misnomer.
Although “gold standard” the breaths are not as important as chest compressions – in the ambulance service the only time we would do the classic “mouth to mouth” is if it were a child because with a child the breaths are initially more important than compressions ……. the only adults we would ever consider doing direct mouth to mouth to would be family members. We only give breaths when we have the equipment set up to avoid direct bodily contact.
So if you don’t know how to give CPR please consider going on a training course – the chances are you will never need it but one day you may and, statistically, if you do come across someone who needs help it will more likely be a family member or friend.
Well said Paul. Worth getting into the habit of noting the location of defibrillators too as these can also make all the difference
https://www.bhf.org.uk/how-you-can-help/how-to-save-a-life/defibrillators
So glad Christian made it. It was shocking to see and I think we all feared the worst
Good link Tongue – there are also some phone apps available, usually produced by local ambulance trusts, but they tend to be hit or miss.
What would be good would be a centralised register but, even then it’s a case of how do record them all – I have an AED but cannot register it as I often carry it in my car so isn’t in a fixed place all the time.
The BHF also makes the important point that many people are afraid to use an AED, worried they may do more harm than good. Again these are unfounded fears – they will only shock if the rhythm is shockable and the algorithms on most AED’s err on the side of caution, so will not shock if any doubt.
I’m living proof AED’s are idiot proof – when I did my first Advanced First Aid assessment many years ago I couldn’t do it locally for one reason or another, so I had to go somewhere 120 miles from home for my assessment.
For the resuscitation assessment I was presented with an AED I’ve never seen before, totally different to what I had been trained on. After an initial, silent, panic I soon discovered it didn’t matter as they are designed for dummies and most, literally, talk you through what to do stage by stage – some even have human sounding voices lol
The biggest problem with public access AED’s is, sadly, theft and vandalism.
It also doesn’t help the “consumables” are not cheap. For mine the batteries cost £179 each, adult pads £45 a set and paediatric pads £87 a set – and the pads don’t have that long a shelf life either.
It’s also worth noting Ericksen had the Pfizer jab on May 31st to protect him from a virus that would never have effected him and it’s highly likely it was related to this (though we can’t say for definite).
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Wouldn’t surprise me, Captain.
It’s bizarre how the PCR test is completely inaccurate (fact – proven in 2 European high courts and confirmed by the tests inventor himself), yet these cult of covid people ignore that and crow on about somebody dying within 28 days of a positive test as definitely being a Covid death even if they had zero symptoms.
Yet in reverse when these people drop within 28 days of the vaccine after being perfectly healthy and in Ericksens case a very fit 29 year old then it couldn’t possibly be due to the vaccine (that is banned in many countries due to blood clots and causing heart issues).
They just say ‘conspiracy theorist’ to everything. Thank the Lord I am not brainwashed.
And before any cult of Covid weirdo chips in and says it’s disrespectful. The psychos are about to start jabbing our children. If you don’t think it’s critically important that the safety of these gene altering still in test stage ‘vaccines’ shouldn’t be questioned then SHAME ON YOU.
Yet another thread hijacked by nutters quoting unsubstantiated conspiracy theories – which have been officially denied by those associated with the player.
Thank the Lord I am not brainwashed.
Trust me Captain Robbo you are seriously brainwashed and are a danger.
I’ve been a member of this forum for over 21 years but this is the final straw ….. I’m off, I’ve no interest remaining on a forum where the admins allow the posting of such dangerous lies
Bye
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This is like the Hotel California, Paul, you can’t leave.
“Relax,” said the night man
“We are programmed to receive
You can check out any time you like
But you can never leave”Dangerous lies?
He had the Pfizer jab May 31st -100% fact
The jabs are known to cause blood clots and heart problems in some people and many healthy people have died – 100% fact as shown on the yellow card system on government website and the VAERS website.
I never stated Ericksens problem was caused by the vaccine- 100% Fact
I said it was possible and needs looking at – only an idiot would argue with this.
Dry your eyes mate and watch the BBC for some comfort.
sudden cardiac arrest is usually caused by an inherited heart condition (like Long QT syndrome or Brugada syndrome), and mostly affects the young. Among under-35s, it is the third most common cause of death, behind suicide and road accidents. Athletes are at particular risk.
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That’s correct Nathan what you said can be the case.
It’s also a fact that the so called vaccines are causing heart problems in young people
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210611/evidence-ties-covid-vaccines-to-heart-issue-in-youth
We also know many countries have banned certain vaccines due to the links to blood clots.
Nobody has stated Ericksen had a problem due to the vaccine as being fact, it’s clearly a distinct possibility however.
Anyone of sane rational mind who isn’t in Denial at what they have had injected into them will fully agree with me.
And please don’t call me dangerous.
I am not the one who has been urging people to take part in a gene therapy trial where the test stage doesn’t end til 2023. You are the test.
If this truth makes you feel uncomfortable then that’s your problem not mine. It was up to you to do your research before you rolled your sleeve up.
Unless I am very much mistaken, this thread is about two things: the shocking collapse of an an elite athlete live on TV in front of millions and, perhaps more importantly, raising awareness of what to do if it happens to you.
Anyone is free to post (within the law) whatever they want. The flip side of that is that everyone else is entitled to tell you that you are talking bollocks. If you wish to discuss such bollocks then there are other threads in which you can do so, or you can of course start your own.
It is in my opinion disrespectful to both Mr Eriksen and Paul to discuss these things here. I would like to thank Paul for raising this issue and reassuring us that any idiot can use an AED if necessary.
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Time to cool off. Anyone for ice cream?
It seems to me that Robbo is the only person I know of that is actually pleased about what happened to Ericksen because it backs up his crackpot theories. Bit like those anti racing people that rejoice when a horse gets killed.Every medicine carries a risk. Even paracetamol and aspirin. But statistically there’s far more risk of blood clots if you catch covid. On the subject of resusitating someone the latest advise [if my memory is correct]I was given when I worked for the NHS was to pump away on someones chest because it might just help and if you do nothing the person will die anyway. People are so worried about how many times they need to do this that or the other that they end up doing nothing for fear of making it worse. My cousins son had covid and now has long covid which seems to have affected his heart. Pity he caught it before the vaccine was made available to him. I hope Christian Ericksen recovers. My thoughts are with his family. It must have been awful for them.
I have given no indication whatsoever that I am pleased about what happened to Ericksen. That’s a ridiculous thing to say though not a surprising attack from a cult of Covid member. It was very sad to see the young man collapse and how upset his team mates and wife was.
Anyway there is no point trying to have a reasonable debate with a Covid vaccine lover they ignore all fair and valid points and just aimlessly repeat ‘conspiracy theorist and pretend you have said something that you haven’t’.
They make no sense so I won’t reply to them again. They just get angry and are not interested in any genuine debate or any point of view that isn’t BBC approved.
Squabble amongst yourselves and rejoice in your sense of righteousness. A debate is impossible with cult members.
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