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  • #1639387
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    Laura Tobin on ITV said rain getting heavier from about 3…hmmm.
    MetO website says only light stuff – we’ll see :good:

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    Heavier rain here now. Will be at Cheltenham v soon.

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    Heavy showers moving in now; just had a proper downpour here.
    Weather radar looks like a few of these will hit Cheltenham soon and through the afternoon.

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    Thanks for the local updates, Wilts.

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    New Course 6.1 on 16-03-2023 at 09:15 – it was 5.9 for the New Course yesterday!

    Maybe Joe’s right and a really drunk fat bloke was sent out to take yesterday’s racing and fell on top of the stick as he drove it in and a hobbit took it this morning!

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    Raining again, here.
    I reck it will get extremely testing later on, maybe from the 3rd race onwards.
    Obviously, it’s the new course today, so wont be so cut up but races later on wont make good viewing me thinks.

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    First race 9.94s slow for 2m4f – 0.497s per furlong.

    I’d say it’s just about clinging on to being Good to Soft at the moment.

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    Times today suggest to me it was Good to Soft, not Soft, and only 1mm rain forecast in the area the next 24 hours, though Wilts may have local insight on that.

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    “Times today suggest to me it was Good to Soft, not Soft”.

    Which makes the decision to not run Banbridge look like a mistake. Why train a horse with one day in mind only to declare him a non runner a few hours before the race because the ground is not absolutely perfect?

    If it is a wet spring and soft ground at Aintree and Punchestown, it will look even sillier.

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    I didn’t get the today’s “soft” either. Envoi Allen was just 4.3 secs slower than standard time, so I thought that was at least good to soft. But last year Allaho was even faster with just 1.7 secs slower and yet again it was soft.

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    “Which makes the decision to not run Banbridge look like a mistake.”

    It was a great shout by you, CAS, after the Gowran win – we were robbed not to at least get a run today and the way the race panned out and the time suggests we wouldn’t have been far away.

    What with him and Shoot First we’ve had our ante-post reverses this week.

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    The perils of ante-post punting, I suppose. But yes – they were both bitter pills to swallow!

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    Going stick: 6.1 on 17-03-2023 at 09:30

    Cloudy, sunny intervals expected from 2pm, no rain forecast until after racing.

    Light 9mph breeze – I’d say it will be close to perfect jumping ground.

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    I think jockey’s will come back saying its dead or tacky ground as there is always that area when ground is drying from soft to good to soft that it goes through.

    Horses that want genuine good to soft ground will likely find it a bit more on the tiring side whilst out and out soft ground merchants may find it a bit quicker than ideal, the Kim Muir run over the Gold Cup course was 13.09s slow and that part of the course especially up the straight looked quite chewed up as well.

    I believe that was part of the course that was covered up earlier in the run up to the meeting to encourage more grass growth so the railed off section that will be used for the first time today may well see a battle to get onto it as that will be the best of the ground out there. Fortunate that the Gold Cup is the first chase race run today so that will also help.

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    Triumph was 9.94s slow and the County over the same course/distance was 9.12s slow

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    As was clear from yesterday’s times, it’s slower on the Hurdles course – the time of the Gold Cup tells you everything you need to know.

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    The fresh ground for the Gold Cup really helped make it a great race. The first 3 home were the form horses.

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