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  • #1316104
    rocky91
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    Thanks vtc. I spent a few spare hours over the weekend going through video replays of all the bumpers and those 2 really stood apart for me, time will tell if I am correct.

    will be interesting to see if petit mouchoir gives fences a bit more respect.

    The plan was to wait for nrnb but that’s gone out the window for now lol.
    Strangely my early bets have been where I have been making the money last few years,

    Good luck with your bets also

    #1316105
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    I don’t think you’ll be far off with that pair, and I’ll although I’m with Le Richebourg at the moment, the pair of them are a real fly in the ointment.

    I was very happy with my Cheltenham last year, but I’m being very guarded this season with my staking. The last time I had a Cheltenham similar to last seasons, I went all guns blazing the next season, and lost a fair few quid, so I’m being strict this time lol. I’m the opposite as to you, and most of my losses stem from betting horses at massive odds for mainly The Gold Cup. The more sensible selections normally come Nov to Jan.

    I’ve chipped away a couple of quid here and there, but been a quiet summer for me, and the bets I put up earlier in the thread, are more or less what I’m sitting with just now.

    #1316107
    Avatar photoKingSprinterSacre
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    I get a little tingle every time I see theres been an update in the Cheltenham thread. I cant wait until the jumps returns :yahoo:

    My plays so far –

    Chipping away at Buveur D’Air at 4s for the champion hurdle from now until he runs. He could be an evens shot on the day if Faugheen doesn’t make it.

    Red Jack 16s for the supreme
    Cause of Causes 9s for the cross country
    Finians Oscar 8s for the JLT
    Had a small nibble on Ainsi Va La Vie for the mares novice at 20s

    #1316108
    rocky91
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    Buveur dair at 4s my next bed I’m waiting to place.
    Definitely agree. Faugheen the danger and he’d be odds against to make it here, and as much as I love faugheen has been off 2 years and he hasn’t faced a buveur dair even in the year he won his champion.

    Ainsi va la vie
    Worrys me a little with the fact she had been off for 2 years prior to running recently, however that’s all factored in to her price and good luck.

    #1316109
    rocky91
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    You had some good trades last year vtc, and you must have got a good thrill out of the runs of labaik and native river.

    I will have a look at some big prices later in the year when there’s more liquidity in the market.

    #1316110
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    @KingSprinterSacre

    Me too Sprinter lol

    Good luck with that pair, surely won’t be far away. I can’t bring myself to bet Cause of Causes on his own at that price, but I’m getting close to it. He’s in all my long term perms for it at the moment though.

    #1316111
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    @Rocky

    Yeah, the trading went like clockwork last year, and I’ll probably not match it for while. Easily my best Cheltenham ever, and to be honest, I think I’ll get hit with a losing one this year. Won’t stop me trying though lol

    I’d agree, the liquidity is brutal just now, and bar the odd blip, it’s mostly the same old faces trading at the really big prices.

    #1316131
    rocky91
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    Willougby court

    “I’ve always been a fan of keeping horses to as short a trip as you can for as long as you can. As he has won the Neptune, hopefully he’s a horse of very high ability who will be running in the big races. It’ll be two and half to three miles and if he went three miles it may be in the Feltham. I’m sure he’ll get three miles in time but I believe he has enough speed for two and a half. A lot of people doubted that when he went to Cheltenham on quick ground, but he wasn’t caught out. Fences will be the way forward, he jumps brilliantly and if he ended up in the JLT I’d be a very happy man”
    Ben pauling

    Antepost bets in total.

    Stayers hurdle
    Nichols canyon 7/1
    Uknowhatimeanharry 9/1

    Novice chasers

    Arkle
    Finians Oscar 20/1
    Melon 16/1(caution could stay hurdling)

    Jlt
    yanworth 10/1
    Finians Oscar 10/1
    Willoughby court 16/1

    Petit mouchoir 12/1 any race.

    Novice hurdlers.

    Samcro 14/1 any race
    Annamix supreme 25/1 20/1
    Debuchet 12s any race.
    Red jack 16s any race.

    #1316139
    Avatar photoBigG
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    Yeah, the trading went like clockwork last year, and I’ll probably not match it for while. Easily my best Cheltenham ever, and to be honest, I think I’ll get hit with a losing one this year. Won’t stop me trying though lol

    You had a cracker of a Festival this year Bobby, I hope your form carries into next
    from this year’s Festival. For a Festival that’s normally good to me, my first 3 days
    were less than inspiring, but my last was akin to falling off the edge of the world :wacko:
    Anyway, next year is another year, and I’ve got my ticket for Gold cup day already, so
    hopefully things will improve. It’s Maybe no great shock, but I took UNOWHATIMEANHARRY
    at the end of March at 12/1 for the Stayers Hurdle, so I’ve gained a few points. I just
    hope he can keep his form into his 10th year. I also took at that time DEFI DU DEUIL
    at 8/1 in the Champion Hurdle, he’s still that price, and had a stab at
    a treble with those 2 and ALTIOR at 6/4 in the Champion
    Chase, who’s also still at that price.

    I’m going to rein in my ante posts for next year’s Festival until a lot neared the time. I got
    badly burned with too many fail to trap this year, so that’s probably me (I said PROBABLY) until
    the start of next year.

    #1316148
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    Cheers Graham, yeah, it was one to remember, but as I said earlier, been very guarded this summer, and not only Ante-Post selections, but also stakes have been reduced a fair bit. I had a fab Cheltenham in 2012, and was too confident the next season, and it was carnage, so once bitten twice shy, and all that.

    I think in general, whether off the back of a winning or losing Festival, in the long run, I think it will always pay off to wait till as late as possible, bar the odd go of course. We’re only human lol

    Good luck with the early plays

    #1316150
    rocky91
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    If anyone was thinking of backing FLEMENSHILL unfortunately he has passed away.

    I received a message when I was asking for quotes of prices.

    Terrible news for the potts And tizzard. a £480,000 purchase after he bolted up in his ptp.

    And his other novice vision des flos who won the goffs bumper at punchestown currently has ring worm

    #1316185
    Avatar photoKingSprinterSacre
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    Just seen that yesterday Rocky. Heart attack

    #1316265
    rocky91
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    Added

    Mystic theatre 16/1
    Mares novice hurdle.
    Excellent run and extremely unlucky in a warm bumper at punchestown, followed her in her few runs over hurdles so far, set to step up in grade over 2miles at Christmas and delighted with the 16s on offer. Fayonagh may or may not run here, has stronger form than the rest of the mullins bumper mares and the 2nd fav deffinately won’t see a race course this side of Christmas, and may therefore stat in bumpers and keep her novice status for the following season. Holiday winner could be anything for mullins coming off the flat, But I’d much rather back proven form, and visual impression.

    buveur dair champion hurdle 4/1
    4s almost gone
    Paddy power pushed out yorkhill for this and the qmcc to top prices. He wouldn’t worry me too much in this race anyway. But looks unlikely now.

    Min qmcc 12/1

    I liked him over fences last season, he beat ordinary world easily as did altior, its along time anf a fifferent discapline since he was beaten easily by altior in the supreme,
    i have heard no news at all on douvan and everybody’s just assuming that he will come back exactly how he was before the qmcc,
    Assuming he does come back as he was, the exploits of sizing John would make me have a good think about where I would want to campaign him this season. Especially with altior as an opponent and having min who looks an out and out 2 miler to me.
    Taking this all into account id expect altior to win, but min is definitely the value in the race.
    I’d have them 4/7 altior 13/8 Min in a match bet over fences.
    Will be fun to watch great field in the division also but I couldn’t back him to beat min.

    Antepost bets in total.

    Qmcc
    Min 12/1

    Champion Hurdle
    Buveur Dair 4/1

    Stayers hurdle
    Nichols canyon 7/1
    Uknowhatimeanharry 9/1

    Novice chasers

    Arkle
    Finians Oscar 20/1
    Melon 16/1(caution could stay hurdling)

    Jlt
    yanworth 10/1
    Finians Oscar 10/1
    Willoughby court 16/1

    Petit mouchoir 12/1 any race.

    Novice hurdlers.

    Samcro 14/1 any race
    Annamix supreme 25/1 20/1
    Debuchet 12s any race.
    Red jack 16s any race.

    Mares novice hurdle
    Mystic theatre 16/1

    #1316409
    rocky91
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    Haven’t had a bet yet but you can guarantee that
    ANNAMIX
    will be going into single figures for the supreme before he ever sets foot on a race course.

    On his way to single figures

    Seen the first mentions of him this evening on Twitter.

    #1316430
    Avatar photoMiddle_Of_March
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    Bit too early for me to play.

    But the first thing i do antepost will be a multi which includes Neon wolf (arkle) and senewalk for a novice hurdle. Not sure what one yet but I’ll keep an ear out for any clues

    And that is why I don’t play before the summer break. RIP to the Wolf.

    It’s about now when I start my antepost Cheltenham bets.

    Defi De Seuill at 8/1 for the Champion Hurdle. Absolute superstar who won for me last year when carrying my Friday NAP. He is staying over hurdles and looks a solid bet I think.

    As for the conversation on this thread about playing antepost, I love it. For me, finding something antepost for the big meetings and then playing it every few days for months in advance is great. I did two big bets like that last year. Alpha Des Obeaux for the RSA at Cheltenham and One For Arthur in the Grand National. The latter of course won which was my favourite ever race as a punter. And my first 4 figure win. I’ve put him in a multi at 25s for the Gold cup with September in the Oaks, Coronet in the St Leger and DDS in the CH. That small Yankee is my first antepost bet of the jumps. :yahoo:

    However, I can see why antepost is something many hate doing. 2/1 for Altior in the Champion Chase isn’t my type of bet and takes balls of steel to take that price so long before the race. I wish Ginge luck with him though. It’s all part of the fun.

    Good luck to all. Some cracking prices on this thread

    #1316474
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    Good luck to you this season MoM with your Cheltenham Ante-Posts, and hopefully see you “officially” involved in The Ten To Follow this time around.

    #1316524
    Avatar photoMiddle_Of_March
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    Oh yes I forgot about that.

    It was a strange feeling as whilst I wanted to do well in my first TRF comp, I would’ve been abit gutted if I had actually won when it was invalid.

    I will have to start making a list up in my head for the season. Defi De Seuill will 100% be on my list.

    Good luck to your good self for the jumps season too. I do enjoy a few of the meetings for the flat (Ascot and Epsom are great in my opinion) but you just can’t beat the jumps really can you?

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