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    Avatar photoImperial Call
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    Willie mentioned to Tracy Piggott on RTÉ that the horse had a cut on his heel and he only worked average earlier on in the week.

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    Willie mentioned to Tracy Piggott on RTÉ that the horse had a cut on his heel and he only worked average earlier on in the week.

    If it had been serious he wouldn’t have run.

    This season’s Champion is the most hyped I think I can remember. If Binocular reproduces something resembling his win last year it is very hard to see him being beaten. Peddlers Cross owes his position in the market to a defeat of a massively below par Binocular and the aura that surrounds an unbeaten horse. Last season he was beating Duke Of Lucca a couple of lengths. Likeable horse but unlikely to be anywhere near quick enough. Hurricane Fly has just been beating up the same old opposition. He may be a superstar but there is little to support that in the form book. It is pretty ridiculous that he is a similar price to Binocular. After that all you have is last season’s Supreme form and a few upgraded handicappers.

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    Can someone tell me why Binny was cut following the kempton race. He beat a galway hurdle winner a couple of lengths. Done absoutely what he was entitled to do. Like that kempton hurdle was a joke of a race.

    Beating Solwhit and county hurdle winner is much better than beating a galway hurdle winner. And before people talk about kyber kim…he is not a proper championship horse or either is that fleming thing in behind.

    #337449
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    Hurricane Fly for me. Really good horse. Proved today that he can win from a strong gallop. Will travel well too as he has won in France

    Peddlers Cross keeps improving and won a really good Neptunes last year. He is the main danger

    Binocular traveled really well throughout the Christmas Hurdle and jumped brilliantly. Worthy favourite as he is reigning champion. I feel however that last years Champion Hurdle wasn’t the best. Go Native got injured and ran no race, Solwhit scoped badly a week before it, Punjabi is finished, Zaynar hasn’t won a race since it, Kyhber Kim isn’t a great horse, Starluck is average. I wouldn’t be backing him at 5/2

    I am not a fan of Menorah. He is a very good horse but I’d be surprised if he is good enough to win this. I think he was lucky to win Supreme Novice last year.

    I have backed Dunguib with the view of laying it off. If he has improved his jumping and his jockey rides him closer to the pace then I think he could be thereabouts.

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    Avatar photoGhost of Rob V
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    Peddlers Cross is the one I’ll be on. He doesn’t know when he’s beaten (literally) but tops a pyramid of a few notable scalps … and he’s only a 5YO. Has bags of stamina and is bound to improve further. Should he strike the front early in the straight, it’ll take something special to get past him.

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    Peddlers Cross is the one I’ll be on. He doesn’t know when he’s beaten (literally) but tops a pyramid of a few notable scalps … and he’s only a 5YO. Has bags of stamina and is bound to improve further. Should he strike the front early in the straight, it’ll take something special to get past him.

    Something special = HURRICANE FLY :lol:

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    Peddlers Cross is the one I’ll be on. He doesn’t know when he’s beaten (literally) but tops a pyramid of a few notable scalps … and he’s only a 5YO. Has bags of stamina and is bound to improve further. Should he strike the front early in the straight, it’ll take something special to get past him.

    Something special = HURRICANE FLY :lol:

    Hurricane Fly’s last three runs have revealed next to nothing since he keeps beating the same horse. I think Binocular and Menorah would have no difficulty in disposing of Solwhit.

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    Looking at historical trends in the race the horse that ticks most boxes is Binocular.

    Of the last 43 runnings, 21 were won by horses who were or became multiple winners of the race. Over the same period around 2/3 of all winners were aged 6 or 7, and 41 champion hurdles were won by horses who had Cheltenham experience with only the group class flat horses Royal Gait and Alderbrook bucking the trend.
    Over half the winners went off as favourite although we haven’t had a winning favourite since Brave Inca 5 years ago.

    On official ratings the top rated wins about 40% of the time, Binocular goes into the race rated 5 pounds clear of the field.

    Jumping is the name of the game and one of the best jumpers I can remember is Night Nurse who was rated some 2 stone inferior to his stablemate Sea Pigeon on flat ratings yet beat him in the Champion Hurdle. Istabraq would be the third best jumper I can remember but Binocular is tops in this department for me.

    So when you have the best jumper of a hurdle in 35 years, who is top rated on form, who is the favourite, who has already won the race before, has the champion jockey on board and who’s trainer has won the race 5 times before then you have to ask yourself why are the bookies offering 100/30 about a 6/4 chance?

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    think i’ll be sticking with my antepost bet of peddlers cross this year

    vf

    #337788
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    I notice the top 4 in the market are all odds against for a place on Betfair. You could try backing all 4 for a place. You would come out ahead if 2 placed, and well ahead if you got all 3 places. Why bet on one good thing when you can have all four?

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    Would be nice to see an unbeaten horse win the Champion Hurdle – that would make it a ‘proper champion’. In all his interviews there only seems to be one horse NJH is wary of and that is Peddlers Cross.
    On the other hand wouldnt matter if he gets beat because he has already proved he can jump a fence – win win situation if you ask me!

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    Hurricane Fly is drifting significantly on Betfair and I fear something is amiss.

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    Does anyone have any info on what’s behind this deift on Hurricane Fly???

    I fear I may have backed a non-runner again :cry:

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    Relax mate it’s all a load of cobblers he’s got the same chance of turning up as any of the others.

    I’m really surprised no one has thought to bring up Oscar Whisky.

    We already have Hurricane Fly, Binocular, Dunquib, Peddlars Cross, Menorah and Mille Chief to contend with now we got a vastly improved Oscar Whisky joining a line up which for me is the best in the races history.

    Sure we had Night Nurse Monksfield and Sea Pigeon all dual winner but their races never looked anywhere as competitive or open as this. My memory goes back to Magic Court and I’ve never seen anything that even comes close to this.

    During Oscar Whisky’s short career he has now won 6 of his 7 starts and his only defeat came in the Supreme Hurdle.

    Looking back on that race Barry Geharty had more than ahandful to deal with that day. Oscar Whisky never settled for one minute and was all but running over the top of the horses in front of him. That like it often does cause him to miss out a couple of hurdles and expend a whole lot of energy yet he’s only been beaten 3.88 lengths.

    He’s certainly settling better this season if not completely but the Champion Hurdle pace should suit him ideally as they always tend to go that half stride faster.

    He may not have beaten much this season but he couldn’t have beeen more impressive and I reckon he’s a huge danger to them all and could easily turn the tables on Menorah in what is certain to be a fast run race.

    The fact he is Binocular’s stable companion doesn’t matter a jot to Nicky Henderson as many of us found out when Punjabi beat Binocular and he won’t be shedding any tears if Oscar Whicsky does the same.

    I’n stuck with Hurricane Fly and still think he’ll win but if I were running a book every one of the 7 mentioned ould be covered by 2 points in the bestting as any of them could easily win. All we need is now is for Get Me Out Of Here or the talking horse Solix to win The Tote on the bridle and we’ll be even more confused.

    If ever there was arace to be Dutching in it’s this Champion Hurdle

    #339657
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    just had a look at betting for champion hurdle silviniaco conti still around 25/1 surely he must have an each way chance cant see him being near that price on day if he runs

    #339679
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    This years champion hurdle looks to be a lot weaker race than last years.

    Cant see anything being able to stop Binocular from gaining back to back champion hurdles.

    Hurricane Fly certainly wont be beating Bino and it would surprise me if he could nick a place. Peddlers Cross is no danger in my eyes.

    Binocular looks to be the festival banker.

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    Binny (WTF is BINO) has every chance of winning again as for the rest of your post………tell Tonto I was asking form him :roll:

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