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Obviously after winning the Hennessy by receiving a lot of weight from Denman and fighting off a valiant Burton Port,
my question is … is Diamond Harry capable of winning the 2011 Cheltenham Gold Cup??
Newbury is one of the toughest courses in the UK to survive around just like Cheltenham/Aintree and he proved he can do it, but on level weights can he see off the likes of Imperial Commander, Kauto Star and Denman.
Ok some people may argue the point he has already beaten Denman, but with the weight he carried can he beat him off levels?
With other horses likely to be involved such as Punchestowns, Burton Port, Long Run, Cooldine, What A Friend, Carruthers it will be a keenly contested race, but is Diamond Harry the real deal?
At this current moment in time I personally don’t fancy Diamond Harry for the Gold Cup. His run in the RSA can be forgiven, but he was beaten fair and square by Mikael D’Haguenet and Karabak in his only other run in a championship race at the festival. In his favour Nick Williams is planning to send him there a fresh horse which could see a turnaround in his festival fortunes. To be honest I’d rather back Burton Port of the two that fought out the Hennessey finish, purely on the basis that we know he’ll be staying on up the hill.
Sorry there Kauto Kid, meant to type Diamond Harry in the first sentence! Edited now
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The ask is massive when you consider horses who win both don’t carry 10 stone in the Hennessy.
Mill House 12st, Arkle 12st7lbs, Burroughill Lad 12st, Bregawn 11st 10lbs and of course Denman 11st12 (2)
Stalbridge Colonist 10st went close One man and Teeton Mill 10st5lbs both turned out to be brilliant horses but on the whole it is a amssive step up to expect from any horse.
The thing about Dirty Harry is we know what he is already and you can’t really expect massive improvement from him.
He’s flat track bully is Harry and Cheltenham isn’t his course IMO too easy to get him off the bridle and he’s very one paced when you do.
Additional weight undulating track faster than a speeding bullet pace. I can’t see it.
The ask is massive when you consider horses who win both don’t carry 10 stone in the Hennessy.
I thought
Jodami
was a certainty for the 1992 Hennessey off 10-2,only to be mugged by Sibton Abbey at 40/1! Jodami did finish 6l ahead of
The Fellow
who carried 11-13 and then went on to beat him off levels so it can be done! Diamond Harry has done me proud and i now think
Burton Port
will fare better in the Cheltenham Gold Cup even off level weights with Denman! As Fist quite rightly says if Diamond has an achilles heel its Cheltenham!
The ask is massive when you consider horses who win both don’t carry 10 stone in the Hennessy.
Mill House 12st, Arkle 12st7lbs, Burroughill Lad 12st, Bregawn 11st 10lbs and of course Denman 11st12 (2)
Stalbridge Colonist 10st went close One man and Teeton Mill 10st5lbs both turned out to be brilliant horses but on the whole it is a amssive step up to expect from any horse.
The thing about Dirty Harry is we know what he is already and you can’t really expect massive improvement from him.
He’s flat track bully is Harry and Cheltenham isn’t his course IMO too easy to get him off the bridle and he’s very one paced when you do.
Additional weight undulating track faster than a speeding bullet pace. I can’t see it.
he has won at cheltenham folks! cant expect any improvement as we know what he is allready ? are you on acid ? hes only had 4 chase runs you nutter, and his improvement to win the hennessy was gigantic in terms of the way he settled and his jumping was miles better. they have also put a new jockey on board and new tactics with him racing more prominently. i thought for the last two seasons his problem has been he doesnt take his racing so well and has been a spent force by the time he reached cheltenham – especially last year, and by going there fresh hopefully he will alleviate that aspect. he also found plenty for pressure when a staying on 3rd behind mdh and karabak over hurdles ( hardly bad form is it ?) and when winning over fences at newbury last year, so thats not a worry for me. wether he’s good enough to win is one thing but i think he will pose a definite threat and 12/1 a very fair price in a year with no standout candidate.
The fact that he will go there a fresh horse is a benefit but given a searching gallop I don’t see his stamina lasting out as it did at Newbury.
Don’t think so.
Timmy Murphy for me is not a good enough Jockey in such a high profile race. He going to be out the back and his jumping isn’t exactly foot perfect. One slight mistake and he be finished
not that i see anything wrong with timmy murphy……..but like i said they have changed a few things with the horse. if you saw the hennessy you would have noticed A) he was ridden by new jockey daryl jacob, and B) he was ridden prominently up with denman the whole way – over 3m2f in softish ground in a competitive top class handicap, so im not sure stamina will be an issue either
Diamond Harry odds have dropped now to 10-1. I don’t think this is a good deal versus Denman at 8-1. Possibly it’s down to speculation on the Pricewise antepost tips due tomorrow. DH seems a bit too obvious for Segal though. Also when he tips an obvious horse the odds don’t move that much anyway – see Long Run for the King George.
Tom Segal puts plenty of Irish Horses up for his Pricewise and i think he may put Pandaroma NR No bet if you can get it
Diamond Harry odds have dropped now to 10-1. I don’t think this is a good deal versus Denman at 8-1. Possibly it’s down to speculation on the Pricewise antepost tips due tomorrow. DH seems a bit too obvious for Segal though. Also when he tips an obvious horse the odds don’t move that much anyway – see Long Run for the King George.
Absolutely right. Diamond Harry 10/1 vs Denman 8/1 is just not attractive.
As for Long Run, Segal fully expects Kauto to win but obviously thinks if the unthinkable happens, Long Run will be there to capitalise. Hes contractually obliged to provide tips. I reckon he was told to pick one for the King George and priciples led him away from an even money shot. IMO of course.
Noel Meade has been in the press talking about Pandorama and his price is into 14s from 16s. Any shorter at 3AM and you’ll know.
I predict
Pride of Dulcote
(This is a prediction of Segals Ante Post Gold Cup Pick, not mine. That would be too easy to predict.)
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