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November 5, 2009 at 06:11 #257166Conduit is definitely the one to beat but think I’ll side with red rocks at 20-1. Not a bad price on him IMO.
November 5, 2009 at 08:59 #257185
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Agree Conduit will take all the beating but it will be tougher than last year. Spanish Moon won’t be stopping and it’s all down to Ryan Moore’s timing but I think he could be run out of it.
Fast track will suit Spanish Moon and worth a small bet at likely high odds with Betfair but not till he’s in the stalls
November 5, 2009 at 09:46 #257193Was listening to Graham Cunningham talk about this race and made some decent points.
Precious Passion a very strong front runner and with Conduit likely to have a patented Ryan Moore late burst I’m going to be backing to lay Precious Passion.
Green me up baby.
November 5, 2009 at 09:48 #257194I make Conduit my nap of the meeting to repeat last year’s victory.
He should have too much finishing speed for this field.
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November 5, 2009 at 09:49 #257195Agree Conduit will take all the beating but it will be tougher than last year. Spanish Moon won’t be stopping and it’s all down to Ryan Moore’s timing but I think he could be run out of it.
Fast track will suit Spanish Moon and worth a small bet at likely high odds with Betfair but not till he’s in the stalls

I happen to think that from a European point of view anyway (since I dont know any of the American horses) that this is an abysmal race. I feel that conduit won this last year after Eagle Mountain failed to get home but in spite of that he is not really a 10 furlong horse and if the pace is a bit pedestrian and this is tactical, his lack of pace could be a problem.
With all of that said, exactly what else in this race would actually be good enough to beat him?? Maybe something local.
Id probably back Red Rocks for place, I thought his come back looked quite promising.
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November 5, 2009 at 10:11 #257204since I dont know any of the American horses
Check out the third video down, TVG discuss the Americans v the world for the BC Turf.
http://betting.betfair.com/breeders-cup/tvg-breeders-cup-videos/breeders-cup-betting-us-vs-the-world-041109.html
November 5, 2009 at 11:06 #257211The last thing I want to do is sell Presious Passion short. You get a run for your money at least – no hiding behind excuses.
Small field could end up a tactical battle which would IMO give a distinct advantage to the breakaway leader.
Presious Passion – 8/1 (NAP)
November 5, 2009 at 11:15 #257214Here’s his last piece of work MD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXih1X3paQI
November 5, 2009 at 12:01 #257225cant see a slow pace here ,race start on downhill , conduit will win imo
he will be at the top of his game this time , presious passion is a one paced horse he will set up the race for conduit , cant see da re mi reversing the arc placing , she had a long season and has been flatered by the slow pace in the arc where it turned into a 400m sprint
and moore chosing conduit over spanish moon tell us who is the best beetwen themNovember 5, 2009 at 14:46 #257248Presious Passion may be one paced, but he doesn’t slow down. Give him too big a lead and he may not comeback to them. Loves firm turf too.
For betting in-running, if he has a big 15L+ gap opened up after 4f or 6f, lump on him, they ain’t gonna catch him.November 5, 2009 at 15:22 #257254presious passion ran the arlington million and got stuffed by the likes of stosfold , we are not sure he ll stay the trip , just a nice pacemaker for the europeans imo
November 5, 2009 at 15:31 #257255presious passion ran the arlington million and got stuffed by the likes of stosfold , we are not sure he ll stay the trip , just a nice pacemaker for the europeans imo
The Million was run on a soft course. PP
hates
anything to the left of good to firm. That race was a throw out. Completely different horse on firm, and SA turf is notoriously hard.
If they keep him within striking distance, then all bets are off. But let him open up a huge lead and it’s a different story. He amazingly doesn’t slow down. It’s a very unusual running style.November 5, 2009 at 15:36 #257258presious passion is a very brave horse , hope he ll be in the money but it will be hard to make all
November 5, 2009 at 19:22 #257294Presence of PP will ensure Conduit gets the fast pace he wants. Very hard to beat. Would have bet SM if it looked like he could get a soft lead but aint gonna happen now
November 5, 2009 at 19:34 #257300the only negative for conduit is the short straight , that could cost him the victory
November 5, 2009 at 19:48 #257301Check out the third video here for the Timeform & TVg preview
http://betting.betfair.com/breeders-cup/tvg-breeders-cup-videos/breeders-cup-betting-us-vs-the-world-041109.html
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