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Did anyone record the comments made by the old French trainer on RacingUK at about 4:30pm this afternoon? He was pretty passionate on this issue. Would make for some good You Tube footage.
In case you didn’t see it he was a big supporter of Harry Findlay and bagged the BHA relentlessly. I’m sure the cameraman had to wipe his lens at the end of the diatribe.
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Again you imply something with a nod and a wink. That’s not fact pal! Perhaps that’s why you have problems at other forums.
There’s a much bigger iceberg floating on the High St every single day.
Some posts missing here which is why the ‘flow’ doesn’t look right. Grandwhyte now no longer with us.
No Cavs, the (Independent) Disciplinary Panel did have a choice as is evident in their choice not to ban Bill Hinge.
Bill Hinge Disciplinary Panel Findings HERE
In my view, given the similarities between the Findlay and Hinge cases a six month warning off for the former is wholly disproportionate and was imposed in part because ‘he is who he is’, this is not justice.
My bad Pompete. Harry’s crime proportionately no worse than that, so unless they changed the goalposts since they could have let him off with a (proportionately) larger fine.
Lets be real here, horses are being laid every day by connections in the early BF markets to spoof out the prices. You could easily allege that this happened with the horses in the O’Hare gambles at Wetherby recently.Ironic that someone who appeared to be asking legitimate questions about the circumstances surrounding Findlay’s ban, should find himself banned from this forum. No doubt he was probably laying his own posts but perhaps a slap over the knuckles might have been a less draconian response. It would be interesting to know the exact nature of Grandwhyte’s offence(s).
KIronic that someone who appeared to be asking legitimate questions about the circumstances surrounding Findlay’s ban, should find himself banned from this forum.
More a purveyor of unsubstantiated innuendo imo.
Did anyone record the comments made by the old French trainer on RacingUK at about 4:30pm this afternoon? He was pretty passionate on this issue. Would make for some good You Tube footage.
In case you didn’t see it he was a big supporter of Harry Findlay and bagged the BHA relentlessly. I’m sure the cameraman had to wipe his lens at the end of the diatribe.
Missed it, are we talking about Claude Charlet here, didn’t know he was that well up on how exchanges work.
I also believe Dave Yates was speaking out in favour of owners laying their own horses, hope Lydia wasn’t agreeing with him. Wonder if they discussed Betfair being happy to take bets off a warned off person?If owners don’t want to lose so much when backing their horse why not put less on in the first place rather than manipulate the odds for their own ends and to the detriment of other punters by trading.
How many owners have actually been caught out by this rule? How many owners actually want to lay their own horses? To have a rule that owners cannot lay their own horses full stop is a small price to pay for a bit of integrity in the sport imo.
Think it’s been very disappointing that so many pundits and press have spoken in favour of owners being able to lay their own horses, maybe it’s naivety, who knows.
One of the few to talk sense on the subject was John Hunt on the Sunday Forum on ATR, well said John.Some good points Mr Case.
Presumably the BHA have access
to inspect irregular betting
patterns or breaches in betting rules.
Is there a weekly meeting or is
the vetting done mainly by Betfair personnel ?Barry – The MAgician wants to know if warned off means Harry can’t bet with any licenced bookmakers or exchanges?
Hopefully Barry will be on here to give us a definitive answer however in the meanwhile I think it is only licensed on-course bookmakers that cannot accept his bets as by default of the warning off he is not allowed on course or any other premises licensed by the BHA.
I believe high street joints and the exchanges are licensed by the Gambling Commission and are nothing to do with the BHA.
I may be wrong and if so ‘old big gob’ will put us right
Using Jock McCartney as an example, when he was warned off all licenced operators refused his wagers, if that was only by choice so be it, as far as on-course bookmakers ,warned off people cannot enter race-courses or do business with them under bha rules,
BTW didn’t see much wrong with g;whyte posts why banned ? seemed to know HF and associates as well as any on here.
BTW HF’s letter in RP says he’s sick of anonymous people on chat rooms passing comment they know **** all about.
BTW HF’s letter in RP says he’s sick of anonymous people on chat rooms passing comment they know **** all about.
No it does not.
Check your facts, yoyo.
" with betfair and various racing forums allowing freedom of speech to clients who HIDE BEHIND A PSEUDONYM"
interpret that how you choose.
Barry asked….BTW didn’t see much wrong with g;whyte posts why banned ? seemed to know HF and associates as well as any on here.
Perhaps he was ruffling the wrong feathers, Barry. There was a time when this forum was prepared to be bold and unabashed with only mild rebuke given to people stepping out of line. Now it seems determined to create an anodised impression of being squeaky clean and above reproach. Cross the line once and you are expunged from history. A whiff of Stalinism pervades the air. Ever so boring and yet, judging by recent months’ contributors, attractive to a more downmarket type of participant.
KI will interpret that as I choose.
And I will interpret as I choose the intelligence and honesty of a person seeking to pass off as fact that, with the remark, Findlay "says he’s sick of anonymous people on chat rooms passing comment they know **** all about."
Are you really Barry Dennis, by the way? I have always had my doubts.
Can you prove it, or are you just an anonymous individual having a laugh at the poor man’s expense?
Fascinating letter in today’s Post from Harry himself.
‘…because of my exemplary relationship with the BHA and Betfair, it was agreed that I could carry on laying [horses from yards where I was an owner, despite the rules being changed for everyone else]. To this day I am still allowed to do so…’
Has this exemption been publicised before?
‘…because of my exemplary relationship with the BHA and Betfair, it was agreed that I could carry on laying [horses from yards where I was an owner, despite the rules being changed for everyone else]. To this day I am still allowed to do so…’
3 weeks ago he was accusing the BHA of defamation of character and talking of possible court action against them, today he says his relationship with them is "exemplary".
He’s rapidly running out of credibility imo.
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