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  • #1463621
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    Like The Greatwood, Coral and Ladbrokes have this priced up early….

    https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/national-hunt/betvictor-gold-cup/winner

    Brio Conti has been touted early for this by Nicholls, and he looks worthy of that early shout. Very progressive over hurdles last season, before a poor show at Aintree, and with a win under his belt already over the larger obstacles, he looks an obvious one.

    Nicholls is likely to have loads in this, with the likes of Diego Du Charmil, Magic Saint, San Benedeto, and Diego Du Charmil likely to be in there, but it’s two JP horses of his who look very interesting.

    I’ve no idea whether Brelan D’As will have fences as priority, but I think he’s a real dark one, and I’d be equally as keen on Kapcorse, who looks to have a big season ahead. Modus is another in those silks who could run here, and if they can build on that encouraging run at Galway, then he’s certainly on a very nice mark.

    It’s probably unlikely that he’d send a Novice here, considering the others in the yard, but if Master Tommytucker got an entry, I’d be looking at him too.

    Ballyandy was very good over hurdles last year, and was also very popular for the 2018 Renewal, but lost his chance when badly hampered. He’ll be higher in the weights this time around, but he’d be shortlist material for me.

    That 2018 Renewal was won by Baron Alco, but we’ve not seen too much of him since. If all well, he’s still on a competitive mark, so I’m not in a rush to dismiss him.

    There was a lot of carnage in that race, and one who’s worth noting is Willie Boy. He was a massive price, and travelling like a dream, when tipping up a few fences from home. Given some unrealistic targets afterwards, and I think he could be a player here.

    Mister Whitaker maybe didn’t quite scale the heights I thought he would last season, but he had his moments, and he’s not that badly treated, and I can see this Festival Winner having this as the early season target. In the same ownership is Glen Forsa, and I think it’s far too early to be writing him off after the end to his season, and I think that he could be targeted at this.

    Eamon An Cnoic is a regular in these races now, and he rarely disappoints. From a yard who love to target this, he looks the obvious one of theirs this time around. Could be interesting each way option early, as he’s a bit of an underrated type.

    Eamon ran very well in The Byrne Group Plate, but was no match for the winner, Siruh Du Lac, who looks very good value still for that rise in the weights. He’s 150 now, but could be better than that.

    Spiritofthegames ran very well that day, also making the frame, and of those quoted, he looks a realistic candidate in the market, as does Drovers Lane.

    From other big yards I could see Springtown Lake (Hobbs), and the Tizzard duo of The Russian Doyen & Slate House being popular, while who knows what ones of Hendersons will come here. His Gold Present might just be something of a forgotten horse, and he ended the season well.

    That’s enough for now, and obviously no potential Irish Chsllengers mentioned, but I’ll certainly have a look at them once entries are out, but as not too many don’t travel over, it’ll be a “wait and see” job.

    I wouldn’t be betting anything for this right now, but Brio Conti is obviously interesting at the head of the market, along with that JP trio from the yard.

    Eamon An Cnoc could be interesting each way, while Ballyandy and Glen Forsa also appeal.

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    Sadly lost second fav Drovers Lane at the weekend. Real shame, smashing horse, and thought he had a real chance here.

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    What a pity- a good wee horse who ran a decent race in the RSA on ground softer than ideal, and a big loss to his yard.

    #1465330
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    Got my eye on 4 at this moment.

    Spiritofthegame
    Kalashnikov
    A plus tard
    tower Bridge

    Looking at oddschecker some are only priced up by a single bookmaker so their runs look doubtful. SOTG looks strong but waiting to know more before investing in it :good:

    You've got to accentuate the positive.
    Eliminate the negative.
    Latch on to the affirmative.
    Don't mess with mister in between.

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    RR, I wouldn’t worry too much about those horses with just the one quote, it’s just a rough guide from the firms at the moment, and I’d expect most of them to be quoted across the board soon.

    A Plus Tard is my idea of Ryanair Winner this year, so I’d be interested in him too if he came over.

    #1465376
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    Actually got confused with the Greatwood Hurdle where I have my eye on 5 at the moment where 2 of them only quoted by Unibet at the moment. :whistle: (Whadda mistaka to make a )

    This race only Kalashnikov is quoted by the fewest bookies (3)

    You've got to accentuate the positive.
    Eliminate the negative.
    Latch on to the affirmative.
    Don't mess with mister in between.

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    What are the chances of Kalashnikov lining up here if he is taking in the Old Roan chase this weekend?

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    Thinking along the same lines myself Jamie, couldn’t rule him out after that.

    High enough in the weights I suppose, but I think he ticks a few boxes myself.

    Be interested to see if he gets an entry.

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    Entries….

    https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/racecards/11/cheltenham/2019-11-16/742277

    I’m very keen on Kalashnikov now, and this appears to be target.

    Slate House was another obvious one from the weekend, as was the unlucky White Moon.

    Brelan D’As and Eamonn An Cnoic still high up there as well, along with Cepage and Gold Present.

    Hard to justify betting one with that shortlist, but I do like Kalashnikov.

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    2 horses stand out for me in this ASO 12/1 had a good season that ryanair form is pretty solid, (although he did beat big names who wernt having the greatest seasons)

    SURUH DU LAC 10/1 this horse won me plenty of money this year so i could be a little bias! But course and distance form is solid as anything and it seems to be the horse that keeps on giving.

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    The West’s Awake has became a little frustrating, but I think at 33/1, he represents a bit of value.

    My one drawback would be that not too many make the journey over there for this, so it is risky.

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    Count Meribel is a likeable horse with decent course form and getting a spin round Carlisle on Sunday. He’s not the biggest or the most stylish jumper- his jockey needs to be adept at slipping the reins and reeling them in again- but gets from A to B and didn’t disgrace himself in the RSA.

    The hardy perennial Guitar Pete isn’t a very original choice but is presumably targeting this and the Caspian Caviar again and is jocked up for his pipe opener at Wetherby. He’s not certain to make the cut so at the moment will be content with the Twiston Davies horse.

    Count Meribel 25-1 ew 5pl

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    Slate House was a horse I had pencilled in last year as one to keep an eye on, but
    he disappointed me. I don’t know what the problem was, but he just didn’t see his
    races out. I was really pleased to see him bounding back to form when he ran out
    a handsome winner at Cheltenham on Saturday. It may have been a wind problem, and
    they had two tries at it, one in February and then repeated in June. It seems to
    have done the trick this time as he travelled like a dream, and it was only how
    far he was going to win from some way out. He won by 11L, and it could have been
    any distance, but big winning distances on heavy ground can be deceptive and a lot
    more will be known next time out. Even so, I think this is a real horse and I think
    the 10/1 with William Hill is well worth a shot.

    #1473342
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    I am in a bit of a dilemma about Slate House. I backed him on Saturday because I read somewhere that the Tizzards thought he was over his problems and had slipped to a good mark. Remember, he was good enough to beat Summerville Boy in a novice hurdle and he went on to beat Kalashnikov in the Supreme.

    I will probably back him again but I just worry that Slate House might be a horse who always has niggling problems. Maybe catching him fresh was the best time to get him? He also seemed to like a small field and deep ground. I wonder how he will cope with the hurly burly of a big field handicap? If he takes to it he clearly has a big chance.

    I was at Aintree on Sunday and was a little bit disappointed by Kalashnikov. To be fair, the race was a bit of a farce but he should be beating the likes of Forest Bihan. He also made a serious error at the second fence. I am not convinced by him.

    A Plus Tard would be very interesting if he travels over. I could see him outclassing everything.

    #1473344
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    Happy Diva 33-1 will do me at this stage. Was travelling like a goodun in this last season and runs in its prep tomorrow.

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    How fascinating an entry does Us And Them look. Anyway heard any whispers as to whether he’s jumping the ferry?

    #1474114
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    Have backed Us And Them @ 14/EW. They have had this race in mind for a while. Good graded form, good prep run and goes on soft ground.

    I thought 2m was to sharp for him last season, 2.4 should be ideal

    Probably given a mark of 152 when the weight come out

    Good luck :bye:

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