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From RP archive, July 31st:
MAIN AIM is likely to be given a short break after finishing last of the eight runners in the Betfair Cup at Goodwood on Tuesday.
The four-year-old was sent off a red-hot favourite for the Group 2 contest having previously filled the runner-up spot in the July Cup.
But having raced prominently, he faded tamely in the straight.
"Main Aim was fine the next day and he probably just had a harder race in the July Cup than we thought, I think that would be the main thing," said Grimthorpe.
"The fact that he banged his head on the stalls didn’t necessarily help, but I don’t think that was the only thing. We’ll probably give him a bit of a break now and bring him back for the Sprint Cup at Haydock."
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From RP archive, July 31st:
MAIN AIM is likely to be given a short break after finishing last of the eight runners in the Betfair Cup at Goodwood on Tuesday.The four-year-old was sent off a red-hot favourite for the Group 2 contest having previously filled the runner-up spot in the July Cup.
But having raced prominently, he faded tamely in the straight.
"Main Aim was fine the next day and he probably just had a harder race in the July Cup than we thought, I think that would be the main thing," said Grimthorpe.
"The fact that he banged his head on the stalls didn’t necessarily help, but I don’t think that was the only thing. We’ll probably give him a bit of a break now and bring him back for the Sprint Cup at Haydock."
Thanks reet, still don’t think I’d be interested in backing him after that run though. The 3yos Bushranger and Intense Focus are others worth a mention.
my points system
144 fleeting spirit
136 main aim
136 finjaan
126 high standing
121 asset
119 art connoisseur
106 bushranger
106 sayif
100 judd street
100 jj the jet plane
99 equiano
98 corrybrough
96 regal parade
94 al qasiwill back fleeting spirit
Those nice people at Sporting have given me a freebie bet which I’ve placed on Bushranger.
If they’ve "got him back" he would have the class to run a big race here.
Currently 33/1 with Hills or 28/1 with Stan James (Qtr odds e/w and best price guarantee) so have had a few quid on with them.
Yup, my main bet is on Finjaan at 7s, but a small saver on Fleeting Spirit at 4s, although I do have slight fears about Bushranger…
…although I do have slight fears about Bushranger…
In with a huge shout at very tasty odds. Rattled off a Group One double as a 2YO when landing the Prix Morny and Middle Park. Has a few questions to answer, but worth a risk at the price.
Main Aim looks the ideal winner to me. I held reservations about him around Goodwood last time, but he can return to his best over this trip on a straight course, which I believe is imperative given his style.
Conversely, I think Finjaan will find life tougher on this course and it wouldn’t surprise me if both Main Aim and J J The Jet Plane reverse Lennox form. The latter is of great interest making his debut for new connections.
High Standing has continued to improve and his Wokingham triumph from Asset was followed by a Group Three success at Newbury from Prime Defender.
His level of improvement will be tested today, with Asset weighted to reverse Royal Ascot form (yet available at more than eight times the odds), and his defeat of Prime Defender leaving him with something to find on the latters running in the July Cup.
Fleeting Spirit will be thereabouts and hard to keep out of the frame, but I fancy Main Aim to reverse July Cup form (where he appeared most unlucky) to take this from the filly and Bushranger.
Thought I was going to be in the money for a long time with Equiano, then I thought Fleeting Spirit was going to hack up.
……….but we all know what Thought did
Another former handicapper manages to bridge the huge gulf in class between the top handicaps and Group 1s.
Read something on the Betfair forum.
The official going to Haydock right now is Good to Heavy (I don’t know in places).
A miracle how they got the Temple after the farce with the going 2 years ago and they’ve done it again look. I don’t care if the rain makes the course heavy, BUT JUST TELL US FFS.
The Leger meeting is a week later, just move the race to that. Had enough of Haydock, their shitty weather and their pathetic clerk of the course.
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Another former handicapper manages to bridge the huge gulf in class between the top handicaps and Group 1s.
It’s called progression TDK, and the reason why he’s a
former
handicapper.
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I could think of a better name for it than TDK,Reet
3 pages of expert analasys and the only mention the winner got was in Towerto’s ratings aand he gave him no chance…don’t know about anyone else but I’ve always considered sprint form totally unreliable unless you get something like Overdose popping up"Fist" wrote: I could think of a better name for it than TDK,Reet
3 pages of expert analasys and the only mention the winner got was in Towerto’s ratings aand he gave him no chance…don’t know about anyone else but I’ve always considered sprint form totally unreliable unless you get something like Overdose popping up100% agree with you on that one Fist. There seems to be so much luck involved or something. Fleeting Spirit seems one of the few who can be relied upon to give a good account of herself time and time again. I think over a longer distance it gives more time for the wheat to be sorted from the chaff.
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Regal Parade improved his RPR by 19lbs last season and a further 9lbs this.
Maybe the more he improves the luckier he gets?
Things like a slow start, an unclear passage or poor jockeyship play a much more critical part over sprint distances which could explain the somewhat erratic nature of the form at times.
Getting told the truth about the going helps aswell. It was a swamp,and they were telling people that the ground was gonnae be on the fast side of good because of this so called drainage.
Graeme, after the mess 2 years ago, there’s absolutely no excuse. In 3 years we’ve had 2 Sprint Cups run on completely false going with completely false going descriptions given and the other one was abandoned due to the track being waterlogged.
Every single time I look at a Haydock going report it has the word ‘heavy’ in it.
The place isn’t fit to stage a card of 0-80 handicaps, let alone Group and Grade 1s.
Without doubt a track that from now on I will avoid like the plague.
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Actually Zarkava, times don’t support that view, and for once in his life Kirkland Tellwright’s description of g/s on the sprint course may be pretty close to accurate. All 3 races on that course were run within about 2 seconds of standard time (Though RP standards are from the original course), which would be unachieveable even on proper soft going, whereas times on the round course told a totally different story.
Irish Stamp (Thank you
) had tried all last week to drill it into me about the different ground, but it wasn’t until I saw (in Saturday morning’s RP) that they’d spent £2.5m on the construction, that it finally dawned on me why
Haydock has now joined the growing list of rebuilt straight courses where the new ground isn’t nearly as susceptible to extremes of going as the original turf and, from a punting perspective, that has to be a positive innovation.
Jeremy Noseda was quite categoric before the race that he wouldn’t run Fleeting Spirit on sft/hvy ground, and her participation and the way she performed suggests he made the right call. While she may well have won on faster ground ( would have, comfortably imo) the ground certainly wasn’t soft enough for her not to run her race, nor would she have lasted nearly as long as she did, on heavy.
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