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Here we go again
"The sprint course is now good, good to soft in places and the round track soft, heavy in places," clerk of the course Kirkland Tellwright told sportinglife.com on Thursday morning.
Can anyone please explain why an amalgam of the 2 former courses should differ so much from the rest of the track?
Reet, when I read an article about the new sprint course a couple of months ago, it said something about it having been laid down a while back. When the meeting got abandoned last year, they could have raced on that course then, but they decided to stick to their guns and follow the original plan and let the course bed in, or whatever else happens when you watch the grass grow. From all the other criticisms, it seems to be the only thing that Haydock has done right recently.
edit: just read the previous post – it must be different soil, as well as extensive drainage.
further edit: doing something to the soil is just a guess.
Dont know why but i have a vision of Kieren being in contention on High Standing but getting mugged by Hayley on Art Connoissur now that would be headline news.
Weather wise it has rained very heavily here and their are already Heavy patches on the outer track but the new inner course is a lot better.
The sprint course we’ll be racing on at the weekend is totally seperate to the round course ie. it apparently drains much much better. The old sprint course is for this weekend at least only going to be used as part of the round course with the new sprint course on it’s inside.
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High Standing’s OR is 113, which he was raised to after his Newbury win. Not sure that he has all that much to find either; he’s already improved by leaps and bounds (c20lbs) this season and it’s a brave man who says he won’t find anymore. Achieved an RPR of 118 for his last race on unsuitable ground, and with KF doing the steering, no surprise at all to see him in the shake-up.
,What? Art Connoisseur will surely outclass this "handicapper", Reet? No?
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, TDK: as his ratings and his gp3 win since clearly show, he’s improved a couple of classes since those days.
Former handicapper
, TDK: as his ratings and his gp3 win since clearly show, he’s improved a couple of classes since those days.
If High Standing is a Group 1 horse then i am not The Ruler of the Ante-Post Kingdom with 14 wives and a 100 servants who will serve me Batard Montrachet served at 6.5 degrees celcius out of a glass slipper moulded to Haley turners left foot!
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, TDK: as his ratings and his gp3 win since clearly show, he’s improved a couple of classes since those days.
Yes – either that or the Wokingham, dare I say it, wasn’t far removed from teh the Golden Jubilee in terms of quality? We have Asset and High Standing in the market already for comparison purposes, but what price would Markab and Tamagin be compared to Art Connoisseur and J J The Jet Plane if they were in tomorrow’s line up?
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Will be this time tomorrow if it rains
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You’re in exalted company TDK; there’s only you and TAPK who can’t see what’s patently obvious – the horse is improving. hand over fist.
I told you the horse was better than the Golden Jubilee winner after Royal Ascot, RH!
Equiano overpriced at 50/1, might be worth a tiny punt.
Did anything come to light about Main Aim’s flop last time???? How is he a shorter price than Finjaan, eben with the different ground??
Much smaller chasm between top handicappers and Group 1 over sprint distances, relative to middle distances at any rate.
That said I think Fleeting Spirit is on the right side of that ‘much smaller chasm’. A proven Group 1 horse (last time she ran outside Gr 1 company was six runs ago when she won a Gr 2). She records consistent figures and her two runs this season have been top drawer. On GTS at Longchamp she ran a fair race, just edged out of 4th when rallying after looking slightly one-paced and I’m not so sure the ground will be the major factor against her some seem to think.
Finjaan could be the danger, unexposed and could have lots more to offer. Main Aim has too many Q’s (forgiving bad runs is a quick route to the poor house, however tempting it might be), High Standing I respect but this is a decent step up for him – he’s too short in the market for me.
This could be one of those races where afterwards it all looks really obvious, when somehow the majority talk themselves out of the class horse, the obvious potential winner.
Or then again….
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I don’t think Prime Defender does High Standing’s chances any favours, so I’ve taken a chance on
Corrybrough
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Equiano overpriced at 50/1, might be worth a tiny punt.
Did anything come to light about Main Aim’s flop last time???? How is he a shorter price than Finjaan, eben with the different ground??
Banged his head coming out of the stalls.
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Finjaan could be the danger, unexposed and could have lots more to offer. Main Aim has too many Q’s (forgiving bad runs is a quick route to the poor house, however tempting it might be),
Whatever has been said about the ground, there’s almost certain to be some cut in it, (it wouldn’t be Haydock otherwise), and that mitigates against Fleeting Spirit imo. It’s not just a question of her acting on the ground, but also her lasting home in the conditions.
Main Aim, considering the bump he took, wasn’t that far behind her in the July Cup, and he seemed to be outsped, rather than outstayed, on the run to the line, and must have an excellent chance of reversing that result on more forgiving ground. King’s Apostle hasn’t done the form any harm either, and MA had a hard race there, so it’s not hard to believe the stable line that his Goodwood race came too soon. SMS knows the time of day too, and surely wouldn’t encourage bringing Pasquier over for a half-chance.
Finjaan, to my eyes, isn’t a 6f horse – it’s hard to forget how he was running on in the Dewhurst, and at a standout 6/1 with Billy Hill, Main Aim would have to be the selection.Ian Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject:
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thehorsesmouth wrote:
Equiano overpriced at 50/1, might be worth a tiny punt.Did anything come to light about Main Aim’s flop last time???? How is he a shorter price than Finjaan, eben with the different ground??
Banged his head coming out of the stalls.
Cheers Ian
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