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  • #19522
    darren83
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    DREAM AHEAD

    I think he bounce back from race in France to win at Haydock at weekend

    #369575
    Avatar photoTheBluesBrother
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    DREAM AHEAD
    I think he bounce back from race in France to win at Haydock at weekend

    I just put together my speed figures for this race and came up with these.
    It would be a shame if

    Deacon Blues

    and

    Sole Power

    were to miss the gig, that would leave

    Hoof It

    4lbs clear.
    Are

    Dream Ahead’s

    latest speed figures up to this grade :shock:

    Deacon Blues

    130

    Hoof It

    128

    Sole Power

    127

    Kingsgate Native

    124

    Delegator

    123

    Tiddliwinks

    120

    Hitchens

    119

    Masamah

    117

    Society Rock

    116

    Dalghar

    115

    Genki

    114

    Elzaam

    111

    Wootton Bassett

    111

    Bated Breath

    110

    Doncaster Rover

    110

    Dream Ahead

    110

    Bewitched

    89

    I expect any pattern horse to have a rating of at least

    100

    and

    Dream Ahead

    has been close a few times.

    Dream Ahead

    :
    07-Aug-11 Dea 7Sft G1 123K

    97

    09-Jul-11 Nmk 6GF C1G1 226K

    99

    14-Jun-11 Asc 8Gd C13yG1 141K

    90

    16-Oct-10 Nmk 7GS C12yG1 180K

    85

    01-Oct-10 Nmk 6Sft C12yG1 106K

    93

    22-Aug-10 Dea 6Gd 2yG1 176K

    91

    16-Jul-10 Not 6GS C52yMd 3K

    65

    Hoof It

    :
    19-Aug-11 Yor 5GS C1G1 156K

    92

    30-Jul-11 Goo 6GF C2Hc 62K

    117

    23-Jul-11 Yor 6Gd C2Hc 32K

    104

    18-Jun-11 Asc 6Sft C2Hc 62K

    92

    13-May-11 Yor 6GF C2Hc 12K

    107

    #369653
    Getzippy
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    It’s

    Dream Ahead

    for moi.

    Drifted to 9/2 but that doesn’t put me off.

    It’s 1/4 the odds first three but I’m gonna do the beast to win as he’s either gonna sluice home or run a stinky dinky.

    He’s got the best form (July Cup) IMHO and he should be suited by the galloping expanses of Haydock.

    Let’s hope it’s a going day for his supporters :?

    Zip

    #369705
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Dream Ahead

    ‘s drift out to 5/1 is a slight worry. Well backed for the July Cup. However, it could be due to the drying ground, something that does not worry me unduely. Haydock ground seems similar to Newmarket.
    Do wonder if running up the middle (stall 9) tomorrow won’t suit him as well as up the rail, drawn 2 and following the front runner (drawn 1) through. That might be important these days for a horse who can wander badly. However, looked a top class sprinter at Headquarters and at 5/1 is worth the risk. Although there’s a chance the drift could continue in the short term.

    Hoof It

    is the other market leader and also deserves support at the same price of 5/1. It’s 2/1 the pair coupled. Disappointed in the Nunthorpe, but that was 5f at a time when trainer Mick Easterby had lost his form. Fallon also chose the wrong one to track, in a race vastly favouring the stand side. Stewards Cup form under 10 stones is up with the best sprints this year. A massive horse who can continue improving for a good while.

    Of the others:

    Difficult to see why

    Hitchens

    is 35/1, not far behind Dream Ahead at Newmarket and unlike that one not run since. Possibly poorly drawn. Shouldn’t be good enough if the top ones perform, but not far behind them with a personal best last time.

    Suspect

    Masamah

    is best at 5 furlongs, but not proven yet. At 31/1 looks worth a saver. Ignore the Nunthorpe when taken to the worst part of the track. Is one of just two front runners here.

    Bated Breath and Delegator look best of the rest.

    EDIT: Only just seen

    Dalghar

    wears a hood. Got really wound up last time out at Goodwood. If the ear appendiges work and (hopefully) a return to prominent tactics (fact he’s been backed may be significant they work at home)… gave Lady Of The Desert a race last year… 40/1 still looks big.

    Value Is Everything
    #369708
    Avatar photothehorsesmouth
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    Blue’s Brother, I’m going to read your ratings upside down and plum for Bewitched.

    Fancied her strongly for the Golden Jubilee and although that didn’t go to plan she should be in the mix with a bit of luck.

    #369709
    trapper john
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    i think kingsgate native could run well at a price i also like hoof it i think it was more the trip that beat him than the grade last time

    #369775
    Avatar photonulty
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    I hedged my bets early in the week with 1pt on Bated Breath @ 8s and 0.5pts ew @ 16/1 on Wootton Bassett. I’ve decided to stick with Wootton Bassett NRNB with another 2pts ew @ 20/1. He looks to be coming back to form and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t need soft ground to show his best. He can perform equally effectively on a faster while not rock hard surface.

    He’s a sprinter and his last run should give him encouragement. He’ll be ridden from the front which will be perfect in a race fairly light on pace. Hanagan might have rose tinted glasses for his first G1 winning horse but I genuinely think this horse has the ability and form to win this.

    #369782
    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    Dream Ahead for me.

    #369792
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Dream Ahead

    ‘s drift out to 5/1 is a slight worry. Well backed for the July Cup. However, it could be due to the drying ground, something that does not worry me unduely. Haydock ground seems similar to Newmarket.
    Do wonder if running up the middle (stall 9) tomorrow won’t suit him as well as up the rail, drawn 2 and following the front runner (drawn 1) through. That might be important these days for a horse who can wander badly. However, looked a top class sprinter at Headquarters and at 5/1 is worth the risk. Although there’s a chance the drift could continue in the short term.

    Hoof It

    is the other market leader and also deserves support at the same price of 5/1. It’s 2/1 the pair coupled. Disappointed in the Nunthorpe, but that was 5f at a time when trainer Mick Easterby had lost his form. Fallon also chose the wrong one to track, in a race vastly favouring the stand side. Stewards Cup form under 10 stones is up with the best sprints this year. A massive horse who can continue improving for a good while.

    I am worried!

    One bet interferes with the other, possibly causing the interfered the race. However, another horse splits the pair. So I have backed the two best horses and might not have backed the "winner"! And that one I backed in his last three races, but not today! :lol:

    Value Is Everything
    #369793
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Phew!

    Under the rules as they stand, not sure the stewards got it right. :?

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    #369797
    Avatar photokasparov
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    I must say the market got this right with the first three about first equal in the betting and the rest some way back. Stakes races are so much more analysable than handicaps.

    One surprise though was the good payout on the Trifecta despite the top 3 being an obvious combination. This was helped by the rollover but even so one might have thought it would have been a heavily overbet combination.

    #369842
    Getzippy
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    Having watched the race a few times on sportinglife.com I think dream Ahead is both the moral and actual winner (sounded a bit Partridge that).

    Hoof it had every chance to get up and couldn’t. In fact, DA found more when challenged and if he had kept a straight line he would have won by at least a length.

    I wonder if he jinked coz he wanted to get his toe in a bit more?

    Next season should be interesting for Hoof It as I can see him coming on again – travelling even better in his races and honing his turn of foot.

    Quirky beast DA but he quickened like the best horse today and confirmed form with Bated Breath, esp if you consider his antics.

    So is 14/1 Hills for Hoof it a fantastic price for the Ayr Gold Cup?

    Zip

    #369873
    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    Yes, it is a very good price.

    If Dream Ahead can lose his quirkiness and coltish mannerisms he will make one very special sprinter.

    #369877
    Anonymous
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    Giving a stone and more to good horses, over a stiffer track than Goodwood and on likely softer ground – I wouldn’t back Hoof It with someone else’s money.

    #369951
    Avatar photoZenjah
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    DREAM AHEAD

    I think he bounce back from race in France to win at Haydock at weekend

    Nice

    tip!

    :wink:

    #370026
    darren83
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    Thank you Zenjah.And lets hope SEA MOON can win the leger

    #370253
    Avatar photoZenjah
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    Thank you Zenjah.And lets hope SEA MOON can win the leger

    You got the price and a run for your money… :wink:

    Thank you Zenjah though not keen on your taste in music :)

    It’s a good job that we’re not

    neiggghh

    bors then!! :D

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