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August 30, 2011 at 22:00 #19522
DREAM AHEAD
I think he bounce back from race in France to win at Haydock at weekend
August 31, 2011 at 12:06 #369575DREAM AHEAD
I think he bounce back from race in France to win at Haydock at weekendI just put together my speed figures for this race and came up with these.
It would be a shame ifDeacon Blues
and
Sole Power
were to miss the gig, that would leave
Hoof It
4lbs clear.
AreDream Ahead’s
latest speed figures up to this grade
Deacon Blues
130
Hoof It
128
Sole Power
127
Kingsgate Native
124
Delegator
123
Tiddliwinks
120
Hitchens
119
Masamah
117
Society Rock
116
Dalghar
115
Genki
114
Elzaam
111
Wootton Bassett
111
Bated Breath
110
Doncaster Rover
110
Dream Ahead
110
Bewitched
89
I expect any pattern horse to have a rating of at least
100
and
Dream Ahead
has been close a few times.
Dream Ahead
:
07-Aug-11 Dea 7Sft G1 123K97
09-Jul-11 Nmk 6GF C1G1 226K
99
14-Jun-11 Asc 8Gd C13yG1 141K
90
16-Oct-10 Nmk 7GS C12yG1 180K
85
01-Oct-10 Nmk 6Sft C12yG1 106K
93
22-Aug-10 Dea 6Gd 2yG1 176K
91
16-Jul-10 Not 6GS C52yMd 3K
65
Hoof It
:
19-Aug-11 Yor 5GS C1G1 156K92
30-Jul-11 Goo 6GF C2Hc 62K
117
23-Jul-11 Yor 6Gd C2Hc 32K
104
18-Jun-11 Asc 6Sft C2Hc 62K
92
13-May-11 Yor 6GF C2Hc 12K
107
September 1, 2011 at 22:01 #369653It’s
Dream Ahead
for moi.
Drifted to 9/2 but that doesn’t put me off.
It’s 1/4 the odds first three but I’m gonna do the beast to win as he’s either gonna sluice home or run a stinky dinky.
He’s got the best form (July Cup) IMHO and he should be suited by the galloping expanses of Haydock.
Let’s hope it’s a going day for his supporters
Zip
September 2, 2011 at 17:57 #369705Dream Ahead
‘s drift out to 5/1 is a slight worry. Well backed for the July Cup. However, it could be due to the drying ground, something that does not worry me unduely. Haydock ground seems similar to Newmarket.
Do wonder if running up the middle (stall 9) tomorrow won’t suit him as well as up the rail, drawn 2 and following the front runner (drawn 1) through. That might be important these days for a horse who can wander badly. However, looked a top class sprinter at Headquarters and at 5/1 is worth the risk. Although there’s a chance the drift could continue in the short term.Hoof It
is the other market leader and also deserves support at the same price of 5/1. It’s 2/1 the pair coupled. Disappointed in the Nunthorpe, but that was 5f at a time when trainer Mick Easterby had lost his form. Fallon also chose the wrong one to track, in a race vastly favouring the stand side. Stewards Cup form under 10 stones is up with the best sprints this year. A massive horse who can continue improving for a good while.
Of the others:
Difficult to see why
Hitchens
is 35/1, not far behind Dream Ahead at Newmarket and unlike that one not run since. Possibly poorly drawn. Shouldn’t be good enough if the top ones perform, but not far behind them with a personal best last time.
Suspect
Masamah
is best at 5 furlongs, but not proven yet. At 31/1 looks worth a saver. Ignore the Nunthorpe when taken to the worst part of the track. Is one of just two front runners here.
Bated Breath and Delegator look best of the rest.
EDIT: Only just seen
Dalghar
wears a hood. Got really wound up last time out at Goodwood. If the ear appendiges work and (hopefully) a return to prominent tactics (fact he’s been backed may be significant they work at home)… gave Lady Of The Desert a race last year… 40/1 still looks big.
Value Is EverythingSeptember 2, 2011 at 18:49 #369708Blue’s Brother, I’m going to read your ratings upside down and plum for Bewitched.
Fancied her strongly for the Golden Jubilee and although that didn’t go to plan she should be in the mix with a bit of luck.
September 2, 2011 at 19:31 #369709i think kingsgate native could run well at a price i also like hoof it i think it was more the trip that beat him than the grade last time
September 3, 2011 at 12:08 #369775I hedged my bets early in the week with 1pt on Bated Breath @ 8s and 0.5pts ew @ 16/1 on Wootton Bassett. I’ve decided to stick with Wootton Bassett NRNB with another 2pts ew @ 20/1. He looks to be coming back to form and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t need soft ground to show his best. He can perform equally effectively on a faster while not rock hard surface.
He’s a sprinter and his last run should give him encouragement. He’ll be ridden from the front which will be perfect in a race fairly light on pace. Hanagan might have rose tinted glasses for his first G1 winning horse but I genuinely think this horse has the ability and form to win this.
September 3, 2011 at 13:32 #369782Dream Ahead for me.
September 3, 2011 at 14:53 #369792Dream Ahead
‘s drift out to 5/1 is a slight worry. Well backed for the July Cup. However, it could be due to the drying ground, something that does not worry me unduely. Haydock ground seems similar to Newmarket.
Do wonder if running up the middle (stall 9) tomorrow won’t suit him as well as up the rail, drawn 2 and following the front runner (drawn 1) through. That might be important these days for a horse who can wander badly. However, looked a top class sprinter at Headquarters and at 5/1 is worth the risk. Although there’s a chance the drift could continue in the short term.Hoof It
is the other market leader and also deserves support at the same price of 5/1. It’s 2/1 the pair coupled. Disappointed in the Nunthorpe, but that was 5f at a time when trainer Mick Easterby had lost his form. Fallon also chose the wrong one to track, in a race vastly favouring the stand side. Stewards Cup form under 10 stones is up with the best sprints this year. A massive horse who can continue improving for a good while.
I am worried!
One bet interferes with the other, possibly causing the interfered the race. However, another horse splits the pair. So I have backed the two best horses and might not have backed the "winner"! And that one I backed in his last three races, but not today!
Value Is EverythingSeptember 3, 2011 at 14:58 #369793Phew!
Under the rules as they stand, not sure the stewards got it right.
Value Is EverythingSeptember 3, 2011 at 15:18 #369797I must say the market got this right with the first three about first equal in the betting and the rest some way back. Stakes races are so much more analysable than handicaps.
One surprise though was the good payout on the Trifecta despite the top 3 being an obvious combination. This was helped by the rollover but even so one might have thought it would have been a heavily overbet combination.
September 3, 2011 at 23:05 #369842Having watched the race a few times on sportinglife.com I think dream Ahead is both the moral and actual winner (sounded a bit Partridge that).
Hoof it had every chance to get up and couldn’t. In fact, DA found more when challenged and if he had kept a straight line he would have won by at least a length.
I wonder if he jinked coz he wanted to get his toe in a bit more?
Next season should be interesting for Hoof It as I can see him coming on again – travelling even better in his races and honing his turn of foot.
Quirky beast DA but he quickened like the best horse today and confirmed form with Bated Breath, esp if you consider his antics.
So is 14/1 Hills for Hoof it a fantastic price for the Ayr Gold Cup?
Zip
September 4, 2011 at 10:40 #369873Yes, it is a very good price.
If Dream Ahead can lose his quirkiness and coltish mannerisms he will make one very special sprinter.
September 4, 2011 at 11:22 #369877AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
Giving a stone and more to good horses, over a stiffer track than Goodwood and on likely softer ground – I wouldn’t back Hoof It with someone else’s money.
September 4, 2011 at 18:21 #369951DREAM AHEAD
I think he bounce back from race in France to win at Haydock at weekend
Nice
tip!
September 5, 2011 at 12:32 #370026Thank you Zenjah.And lets hope SEA MOON can win the leger
September 6, 2011 at 20:31 #370253Thank you Zenjah.And lets hope SEA MOON can win the leger
You got the price and a run for your money…
Thank you Zenjah though not keen on your taste in music
It’s a good job that we’re not
neiggghh
bors then!!
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