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Find it surprising that people consider Bobs Worth an ‘above average’ Gold Cup Winner. Not sure that we know enough about him to draw that conclusion yet…. Time will tell. I’m not dissing the horse as he did me a huge favour in the Albert Bartlett, but not sure he beat that much in last year’s GC.
I’m not convinced Cue Card will be suited by the ground/trip combination. And Long Run looks one to avoid for the time being.
If it gets soft Tidal Bay enters the equation and if they go mad pacewise he may be the one to pick up the pieces.
But for me the two of interest are Silviniano Conti and Dynaste. The latter won the fixed brush of 141 and clearly goes on the course. He went for the wrong race at the festival. Silviniano goes well fresh and I expect him to have too much speed for Bobs Worth on this course.
Yeah, i should stress that in my summary i meant that Bobs might get outpaced but stay on late, not Silviniaco Conti – he should be travelling upsides Cue Card by that point.
I will be watching without financial motivation but hoping for a Bobs Worth win. I just love the horse.
Should be the best renewal for some time.
I know I’m going to get pelters for this, Joe apart maybe, but I believe the last run of Long Run is just too bad to be true.
I’m aware of all the alarm bells that have been pointed out, a jockey that maybe doesn’t get the best out of the horse, possibly a problem with the way he jumps, pointed out by Joe, although I think the first two points are probably linked, perhaps too many really hard races from the age of 6 and maybe he is starting to lose his love of the game for all that.
However, I just can’t let 12/1 go without at least one last hurrah. If the last race hasn’t left scars on him, and if he is back to good health, I simply cannot see him unplaced in this.
I think Bob’s worth won’t appreciate the sharp track at Haydock, I can see him running on well but I think he needs a real test to be at his best.
Silviniaco Conti is the one I fear the most, but I’m still undecided on how good he is. It might well have been that he had a hard season in April when he was beaten in the Betfred Bowl at Aintree, by 2 hoses rated 7lbs and 14lbs inferior to him, but I wasn’t impressed with him that day, or at least not impressed enough to take 5/2 or 11/4 on him.
Sorry Joe, I just can’t see Cue Card getting the trip in a true run race over 3m. Although if he is going to get it anywhere, it should be Haydock.
Dynaste is decent and could be in the mix, but the Pipe camp like nothing better than a decent bet, and it looks like he is drifting slightly at this point. Not a good pointer for a Pipe horse.
Can Tidal Bay win it at 12?….really?…that would be worrying if the best on offer can’t get past him. He is tough as old nails, but I just can’t have him.
If I had to have another bet, I would consider an e/w at 20/1 on Roi Du Mee. He hasn’t maybe raced in comparable races to some of the more fancied runners, but he did look good in the Champion Chase at Down Royal last time.
I know I might get told to just keep taking the tablets, but for my money, they are the value bets.
Good luck guys
Nope you are not alone I am in Long Runs corner for reason explained pg2.
Apologies PC, I had read your post a while back, I just forgot you were in his corner too. That makes you me and Joe, they’ll be running out of straight jackets at this rate
I think it’s worth considering that the race is a furlong further than last year at 3 miles and one furlong. The going is currently listed as soft. I believe there will be some tongues hanging out at the end of the race tomorrow. OK it’s not Bobs Worth’s beloved Cheltenham but I think it will be enough of a test for there to be no hiding place for those with stamina questions and for Bob to get going at the business end.
I can’t have Long Run, he couldn’t win last year when 11/8 fav in a five runner affair. He has to take on his nemesis that day a year on and this is a lot tougher than last season’s renewal. He also had a bad start to the season and I’d need to see him run a lot better than that to think about a bet on him.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Really like Tidal Bay as an each way proposition.
Think Bobs Worth won’t suit the track, nor the easy trip, whilst Silviniaco Conti, Long Run and Giant Bolster all have poor intertwining form last year.
Cue Card won’t stay, Roi Du Mee not good enough which leaves Dynaste and Tidal Bay, oh yes.
About to place a bet on Bobs Worth, want some opinions on this:
Bobs Worth 5/2 to win
or
Bobs Worth 11/10 to win with PP’s 3 place insurance?
Staying loyal to Silvinianco Conti. I think he could be a real champion. Was blown away with his winning performances last year and should surely go well here.
Also got a sentimental E/W punt on Tidal Bay.
Really, really looking forward to this one. One of the best quality races we’ve seen for a very, very long time.
No one worried on Silviniaco Conti that Jacob would rather ride Al Ferof ahead of SC in a Grade 1??
One thinks Al Ferof has trained on really well for him to miss the best Betfair Chase om paper ever.
Hard to look past Bobs Worth for me.
Everybody except Bobs Worth drifting at the moment.
Best Prices:
Sil Cont – 4.33
Dynaste – 7.5
Cue Card – 10
Tidal Bay – 10
Long Run – 15Has there been a revelation of conditions this morning that particularly suits Bobs Worth, or is this simply the casuals backing the known fav on the day of the race?
I think Mr Hales would be wanting Daryl to ride Al Ferof today, and he is one of the main owners at the stable these days.
I think it’s worth considering that the race is a furlong further than last year at 3 miles and one furlong. The going is currently listed as soft. I believe there will be some tongues hanging out at the end of the race tomorrow. OK it’s not Bobs Worth’s beloved Cheltenham but I think it will be enough of a test for there to be no hiding place for those with stamina questions and for Bob to get going at the business end.
I can’t have Long Run, he couldn’t win last year when 11/8 fav in a five runner affair. He has to take on his nemesis that day a year on and this is a lot tougher than last season’s renewal. He also had a bad start to the season and I’d need to see him run a lot better than that to think about a bet on him.
Hard to argue with your logic Steve, the extra furlong will be to Bob’s benefit, but I still think he revels in a hard finish, like when powering up the hill at Cheltenham. He might well be good enough to pull away from them here, but I’m keeping my doubting Thomas hat on at this stage.
You are again right that Long Run was beaten fair and square last year (and the year before) but on both occasions the Betfair was his prep race for the King George. If he is over the trauma of the Charlie Hall, he will be fitter at this time of year than he has been previously. It’s pretty obvious I am a Long Run fan, but if you look at the Charlie hall thread, I expected him to get beat and suggested Harry Topper as the likely winner.
There are probably move plausible reasons as to why he should get beat than why he should win, I just think this is a better horse than he gets credit for and I think 12/1 is a bit of an insult, so I’m taking it.
I wish no harm to SWC, but couldn’t he get a bad cold or maybe twist an ankle a little before one of these big races….what I wouldn’t give for a Barry Geraghty, or someone of that ilk, setting him right at his fences.
No one worried on Silviniaco Conti that Jacob would rather ride Al Ferof ahead of SC in a Grade 1??
One thinks Al Ferof has trained on really well for him to miss the best Betfair Chase om paper ever.
Not given the choice RR.
Though I suppose there are two top chances at Ascot to one at Haydock. Zarkandar can be a tricky ride too where as Silviano is pretty straightforward.Value Is EverythingI am on Silviniaco, but the going is a bit of a worry. They seem to be finishing tired and may suit Bobs Worth more. However, times compared to standard times of the hurdles don’t seem too bad. Is it because the distances might not be as advertised?
Hope they don’t go too quick early.
Value Is EverythingHats off to you Joe, I love a man that stands by his beliefs in a horse. Once Long Run wasn’t going to win, I shouted my head off for your boy. He has an amazing engine, and I’ll happily eat humble pie, I didn’t think he would get the trip, he did it the hard way, from the front all the way.
Your bet on the King George is looking good now
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