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January 18, 2008 at 14:33 #6310
Having read the various posts on here concerning the various system to use, does anyone have the success rates of such systems?
Im currently trialing 3 systems one given, two devised but would be interested to know if anyone has a particular favourite or would recommend another one to look at.
I dont really have an aim and Im not looking to make millions just happy to have a bet once or twice a week, win a maximum bet of around £10.
Big thanks also to members that have helped me over the recent months, you know who you are
January 18, 2008 at 16:02 #136212onefurlongout,
I used to employ a portfolio of half-a-dozen systems in the early 70’s to enjoy betting but manage the risk. Some of them could have survived the passage of time, particularly if you are seeking something simple, logical, good strike-rate and short losing runs.
One was quite simply to support all favourites in non-hcap races with up to six runners. I note that Cape Velvet won the Wol 2.55 easily this afternoon returned 11/10. The problem with this system was that during the high season on the Flat there were too many qualifying races.
Another was a system that I actually purchased for a tenner , ‘Master Key 11’. In essence this was to follow two non-hcaps at the principal meeting daily where two out of three tipsters agreed, from the publication of your choice. This is better as it reduces the number of bets and on the odd occasion there is a winner at longer odds. If you, or anyone else, would like a copy transferred to them just send me a PM with an email address (NB: I do not recommend their staking plan ‘no way Pedro’).
I nearly forgot, from the Daily Mail today following Robin Goodfellow, Gimcrack and Formcast. Cat 2.10 was won by Wee Forbes returned 11/4, 2.45 Stagecoach Amber PU went off at 7/1.
January 18, 2008 at 19:01 #136250Thanks for the advice formath. I’ll PM you for a peak of the system you mention.
As for the staking plan Im still going with the one you mentioned before with a little help from Hensman
February 7, 2008 at 22:06 #141145AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 84
I’ve been piloting a few lately, but it’s too early to say whether they’ve produced a profit in the long term.
I’m no mathematician, but I suspect there will always be a problem of finding a proper "sample size". An example of this is the system by which one sets a target profit for the day then backs favourites in order to reach it. From my experience, it works beautifully until it crashes, on average every 20-odd days, but if, for instance, you tried it for, say, 19 days, you’d think it was mustard.
Having said that, every one of the systems I’m trying at the moment are showing promise and some are well in profit. If this performance continues, I’ll certainly post to say so.
Kind Regards,
Brian
February 8, 2008 at 16:47 #141308Having some good days and some bad so far. Also considering a laying system, so if anyone has any ideas on or has successfully used a laying system then I’d be keen to hear about it
Cheers
February 8, 2008 at 20:08 #141372Hi OFO,
Dont know if the following link will work, I’m not that good when it comes to links & adding things to e-mails etc
https://theracingforum.co.uk/forum/v … highlight=
If it doesn’t, then search for the thread ‘Last Favourite Lay’ by Larry Layer, this was a very successful laying system for the length of time it was trialed,certainly a £1,000 bank was more than doubled.
Another one involved laying Philip Hobbs favourites but I cant find that one, if I do I’ll put the link up & also tell you what it was called.
Keep us posted if you start one OFO
February 9, 2008 at 08:54 #141470cheers snowman, will take a look at keep you posted
February 10, 2008 at 15:22 #141950I’ve been doing a ‘favourite system’ whereby the rule is basically in any given day a favourite will win…. so you would bet what you could afford (i.e. i started with very little money so aimed to make £5 a day) then as the favourites loose keep making your loses ontop of the initial £10 for each race. But after the first favourite wins quit. Usually the first favourite won then you were laughing but sometimes went on for a good few races afterwards.
I did this successfully for 2 years (not everyday) starting with £5 a day which was tedious but as my balance increased i increased my aim to eventually £50. All was brilliant and made £7,000 but yesterday……… well 13 favourites in a row lost (not including irish) and ran out of money to make my next bet so lost. To rub salt in the would the very next fave won at Lingfield…. therefore it does work just you really do need enough money in the account to cover any loses.
I have to say i’ve never known the system go for such a long run with 13 races not producing a winning favourite. The longest before this was about 8 but with it being a Saturday there were more race meetings so more races to be lost.
I’m pretty gutted to say the least but i started with about £500 so it was never really ‘my money’ but still, wish had missed yesterday. All that money! Gutted
I am enjoying reading your systems on here, there are some really good ones i will consider doing. Thanks for the time and effort you’ve invested to put them on here. Really good work guys
February 10, 2008 at 18:11 #141984Sad to hear that you lost your pot of cash, I’ve looked at the favourites system and to be honest I dont think I could live with chasing the favourites. To much risk involved for my liking
February 16, 2008 at 07:58 #143711Hi uFO
i advocate a system based around "gambling trainers". There is so much work thats gone into their plots. This wud cut our work load down hugely, yet retain the accuracy. (Also giving the system a real sense of real focus)
I am convinced that some even do "dry runs" by way of a reccy.
byefrom
carlisleFebruary 16, 2008 at 08:29 #143715Kauto
On the 9th Feb if you include Irish Racing you would have only had to wait until the 1-45 where Peplum won the very first race!The ‘Old Boy’ system is just to get a winner at any price, whilst I have reservations overall just to get a winner at any price does limit your risk much more than trying to win a certain set sum on the day.
For example you might be say £300 down and to try and get that back and also to make your daily profit you would need to put far more on (especially if the fav was odds on) than the ‘Old Boy’ method as that expects some days not to make a profit where as your one had to keep going to get the £50 profit.
Hope that makes some sort of sense
rgds,The only real problem doing somethig like this I have found is it keeps one stuck on the pc every afternoon until the first fav wins. So if someone had a proper job as it were they would find it hard to get the time to do it>
February 16, 2008 at 09:29 #143721Hi Seagull
i grew bored of proper jobs, horse racing is my focus.
As for the previous system……..
"Don’t set off for America in that boat!"
byefrom
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