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E P Harty worked as a currency trader for Anglo Irish Bank before becoming a trainer. Captain Cee Bee is called after his grandfather who was Captain Cyril B Harty. He was on the Irish Show Jumping team before becoming a trainer. His brother Eoin is also a trainer based in Amerrica and won the Breeders Cup Fillies Juvenile in 2001.
Binocular is surely winning that race tomorrow, pity Franchoek isn’t there, he might be a better price than what is likely, would have liked something around 3s.
Think I’ll just have a little bet on him for next years Triumph while 20s is still there.
3/1 I wish
It’s very much a head to head which will suit Celestail Halo more than Binocular.Everything is stacked in CH’s favour who will be right up there from the start. The going, the sharp track and the fact they have an excellent form line through Pierrot Lunaire plus PN is very confident they can win.
There is also the fact there seems to be a lack of decent opposition which may leave Binocular out on his own with nothing to race with when going after after him.
I am not making any excuses for Binny because if he is as good as I think he should still win. Henderson is apparantly every bit as confident as PN so it should be a great race. Henderson has now said he honestly thought the horse wasn’t going to run at Cheltenham and apparantly it was an 11th hour decision. If he let the horse down an inch because of that then who knows what might have been.
I am hoping he can kick Celestial Halo into touch as I wasn’t overly impressed by either him or Franchoek at Cheltenham and stand by Binocular 100%.
I will be happy if I can get 9/4 about him and will back him early no matter what. These two will end up as short as the bookies can get away with.
3/1 I wish
It’s very much a head to head which will suit Celestail Halo more than Binocular.Everything is stacked in CH’s favour who will be right up there from the start. The going, the sharp track and the fact they have an excellent form line through Pierrot Lunaire plus PN is very confident they can win.
There is also the fact there seems to be a lack of decent opposition which may leave Binocular out on his own with nothing to race with when going after after him.
I am not making any excuses for Binny because if he is as good as I think he should still win. Henderson is apparantly every bit as confident as PN so it should be a great race. Henderson has now said he honestly thought the horse wasn’t going to run at Cheltenham and apparantly it was an 11th hour decision. If he let the horse down an inch because of that then who knows what might have been.
I am hoping he can kick Celestial Halo into touch as I wasn’t overly impressed by either him or Franchoek at Cheltenham and stand by Binocular 100%.
I will be happy if I can get 9/4 about him and will back him early no matter what. These two will end up as short as the bookies can get away with.
I would say everything is in Binoculars favour this time, they are two very different sorts of horses. Celestial Halo is an out and out stayer who doesn’t have the greatest turn of foot and Binocular, although a very good all rounder, is a speedster.
To me the more testing the ground, the more likely it is that a stayer will win (if there is all round pace). The better the ground the more likely that a speedster win, as long as they can travel at the pace of the race.
On testing ground (which they both got at cheltenham) everything would be in the favour of a stayer- Celestial Halo. But on good ground, as is expected tomorrow everything would be in favour of the speedier horse-Binocular, especially as he travelled well at a decent clip on more testing ground cheltenham.
The point of stayer/speedster is IMO illustrated somewhat when you look at the performances of both horses when they made their second starts, both were on good ground and Celestial Halo ran to a rating of 125 and was beaten, with Binocular (who’s jumping was shocking that day) ran to a rating of 138, and won.
Tomorrow, much more use will be made of Celestial Halo than was made of him at Doncaster, but the better ground will help Binocular to travel better than he did at cheltenham and whereas he slowed up the hill at cheltenham, I think it will take one hell of a gallop to see him beaten tomorrow, if he is in the same sort of form as cheltenham again.
You have covered this before but Ascot is not a walk in the park and the ground was very very soft that day and he quickens up in it really well.
He has outsped Franchoek from the front without doubt and yes he stayed the trip well but he was at his best on fast ground on the flat with Barry Hills according to the form book.
Quite Frankly I think Franchoek was grossly over rated and is no wonder horse but Celestial Halo we may not have seen the best of.
His 3 lengths defeat in the St leger was on fast ground……….he got beat over hurdles on good ground but Nicholls admitted he left him short of work and ran him the wrong way.
He may well be an even better horse on this ground and that would be my worry, if it had come up really soft I would have no worries with Binny on this course.
However everytime I watch the Supreme I get the same impression. He looked full of running when MCCoy asked him to go for home but within a few strides you could see Captain Cee Bee was going to get the better of him……..
It could be he has been beaten by a very special horse and Eddie Harty I’m sure wouldn’t argue with that. He is of course much older and much more mature so there is no disgrace in that.
It could be he never got the trip but I fail to see how you can think that when he has increased the distance between himself and Snap Tie. If he had been bouncing up and down on the same spot I would agree with you but he wasn’t he just never showed as much toe as he had at Kempton or Ascot
It could be he simply wasn’t 100%. fit something that Nicky Henderson has hinted at even if he hasn’t said it outright. If he really thought he wasn’t going to run at Cheltenham the chances are he let the horse down a bit……wouldn’t suprise me if he wins easily tomorrow if Henderson says that was the case.
All the talk is for Binocular which suprises me I thought you and I might be like Lone Ranger and Tonto
I seriously thought almost everyone would have gone for Celestial Halo as he beat one of the shortest price favourites for the Triumph Hurdle in it’s history and did it fair and square.The best price I can get anywhere is 7/4 Binoucular.
Ladbroke the magic sign are making him favourite which I never thought he would be…..makes you wonder!!!
It’s very much a head to head which will suit Celestial Halo more than Binocular.
Everything is stacked in CH’s favour who will be right up there from the start. The going, the sharp track and the fact they have an excellent form line through Pierrot Lunaire plus PN is very confident they can win.
I disagree. Aintree’s hurdle track, as AP has pointed out before, doesn’t suit front-runners as the long straight makes them a sitting duck for horses coming from off the pace. Of the 2, I’d prefer Binocular tomorrow as I think he’s got the better turn of foot. I won’t be playing though, as 7/4 looks about right and Nicky H has an awful record at Aintree. If he were to drift to 11/4 or so I’d be interested.
I would be wary in making tomorrow purely into a two-horse race. Take away his Musselburgh run (where he looked like he went wrong) and Harper Valley appears to have thrived on the application of blinkers, beating Franchoek and winning impressively on the all-weather (albeit off a lower mark than his flat turf form) from two starts.
Thanks Friggo but your too late took the 7/4
I did look at him and he drifter badly in that race but won it well. Can’t say much about the quality of the oppposition as Irish all weather reminds me of the flapping
I think Ap will have a very good idea of his strength as he rode him to beat Franchoek……….have to think it was just one of those days when Franchoek was caught of guard and can’t see him living with these two very good horses.
Franchoek is surely quite big at 7/4 for the later race? Ive doubled him up with Inglis who despite the negatives should still have just too much ability for what is not a cracking field
I simply cant split Celestial and Binocular.
I’ll be taking on Franchoek tomorrow too- I don’t think Aintree will suit him as well as his beloved Cheltenham.
I think Harper Valley, First Buddy and Star Of Angels are all similar types of horses to Binocular, but not of the same class. I would however be tempted to get an e/w on Star Of Angels whose 5th in the triumph which would have pushed his stamina well past its maximum, showed improved form and he would have a chance of getting closer in this less testing race and would be a safety for binocular.
This race is all about binocular for me though, wheras Henderson may not have the best of records at Aintree this horse looks a standout performer. I just hope he is on form again.
Coincidentally, I only realised the other day that Binoculars sire Enrique is a grandson of Sadlers Wells and his dam sire Pistolet Bleu is by Top Ville. Sadlers Wells/ Top Ville being the cross which has produced Montjeu and Yeats. Without being totally relevantI found it quite interesting, nonetheless.
This Harper Valley is the interesting one in the race. Has lowered Franchoek’s colours and returned to form on the flat at Dundalk last time. 10/1 with Ladbrokes seems a decent price to me.
I’ve always been of the opinion Franchoek is over rated and although the race doesn’t look any great shakes in reality it could be very hard to win.
wouldn’t have a clue what to do but 7/4 looks a real measly price to me.
I think Franchoek will be really suited to this trip on the ground. Group Captain however was always a horse who I thought was stuck between the 2 mile and 2m4f trips, so his fifth in the Ballymore on testing ground was impressive for me and I think it is between him and Franchoek. There isn’t really much to oppose those two IMHO.
I think First Buddy might just be up to upsetting Binocular and Celestial Halo, neither of which I have been overly impressed by.
The forecast double of 11/4 on Inglis Drever and Kauto Star is buying money. Throw in Franchoek, who should beat that field comfortably (Group Captain is a horse I like, but 2m4f aroun Aintree will be too sharp) and you have the makings of a profitable afternoon.
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