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im glad i backed hello bud, was willing him on to the end, thought royal rosa was going to get to him, both ran a fantastic race
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Chuffed to see Hello Bud win at 12. I had him all last season, but i subbed him for Royal Rosa in the end and was given a great run for my money. What a race.
Shame Notre Pere was hampered so much. Bumped early on, hampered at the pile up, stopped to a walk at bechers and again at valentines. Worked wonders to keep going and get 5th. He’s set for the National i reckon.
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Good performance by Hello Bud, but a word of warning for those of you who’d back him in the Grand National – no 13-year-old has won since 1923.
I’moncloudnine unseated at the Canal Turn, but I’m still pleased with him, as he seemed to be taking well to the fences. I’ll be looking at him come April!
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So don't run, just like the others always do
Good performance by Hello Bud, but a word of warning for those of you who’d back him in the Grand National – no 13-year-old has won since 1923.
I’moncloudnine unseated at the Canal Turn, but I’m still pleased with him, as he seemed to be taking well to the fences. I’ll be looking at him come April!
The has only been 3 teenagers that won the national according to records, Why Not in the 1890’s was the other 13, and Peter Simple in 1856 is the oldest at 15. Peter Simple won it earlier too, and Sergeant Murphy in 1923. So a 13 year old has to be something really extra special if its to defy the statistics.
Good performance by Hello Bud, but a word of warning for those of you who’d back him in the Grand National – no 13-year-old has won since 1923.
The has only been 3 teenagers that won the national according to records, Why Not in the 1890’s was the other 13, and Peter Simple in 1856 is the oldest at 15. Peter Simple won it earlier too, and Sergeant Murphy in 1923. So a 13 year old has to be something really extra special if its to defy the statistics.
How many 13yo’s with Hello Bud’s profile have actually run in the race? You’d be pushed to find many winners of that age winning the National, when there’s few who run of that age in the first place. Only one runner in the last 4 runnings.
I remember one chaser decades ago, who actually ran better as a fourteen-year old than at any time in his career; winning several fair handicaps races, if I remember corectly. Can’t remember his name, unfortunately.
Rondetto came third as a 13 year old [his best performance in the race] but unseated as a 14 year old in 1970.
He must have been in decline as a 14 year old because his weight had gone down from 11.6 as a 9 year old to 10.5 for his final appearance in . I always remember him because one of the newspaper clippings that I kept about the race said ‘Rondetto will never get round the National course because he tends to peck on landing’. He seemed to have been around forever when I was a child. What he achieved away from Aintree I have no idea.Good performance by Hello Bud, but a word of warning for those of you who’d back him in the Grand National – no 13-year-old has won since 1923.
The has only been 3 teenagers that won the national according to records, Why Not in the 1890’s was the other 13, and Peter Simple in 1856 is the oldest at 15. Peter Simple won it earlier too, and Sergeant Murphy in 1923. So a 13 year old has to be something really extra special if its to defy the statistics.
How many 13yo’s with Hello Bud’s profile have actually run in the race? You’d be pushed to find many winners of that age winning the National, when there’s few who run of that age in the first place. Only one runner in the last 4 runnings.
Yes you are right with only 1 in the last 4 years
Eurotrek
who was pulled up at the 17th fence.
However between 1989 and 2010 can’t go back any further because Racing Post records only go that far there are
28 teenager age 13 or more and 4 of them were 14. Only 9 of these veteran actually finished and none in the first four where you’re get paid by most bookmakers.
List of teenagers
2010 None
2009Eurotrek (Pulled up at 17th fence)
2008 None
2007 None
2006Nativeupmanship (Refused at 27th fence)
Rince Ri (Refused at 27th fence)
First Gold (Unseated Rider at 23rd fence)
Amberleigh House [14] (pulled up at 21st fence)2005
Amberleigh House finished 10th out of 21 finishers.
2004 None
2003 None
2002 None
2001Feel Like Gold (Refused at 8th fence
Addington Boy (unseated rider at 2nd fence)
Brave Highlander (refused at 19th fence)
Merry People (unseated Rider at 7th)2000
Camelot Knight [14] finished 15th out of 17 finishers.
1999
Camelot Knight (Brought Down at 22nd fence)
Muddahim (unseated Rider at 6th Fence)1998
Into The Red [14] (Pulled up at 17th fence)
1997 None
1996Riverside Boy finished 12th of 17 finishers.
Sure Metal last to finish.1995
Cool Ground finished 11th of 15 finishers.
1994
Fiddlers Pike finished 5th from 6 finishers.
1993 Void Race
1992Golden Minstrel finished 15 from 22 finishers.
Stearsby (refused at 9th fence)
Cloney Grange (fell at 22nd fence)1991
Durham Edition finished 6th from 17 finishers.
Run and Skip (fell at 2nd fence)1990
West Tip finished 10th from 20 finishers.
Young Driver (Pulled up at 7th fence)
Monanone (Carried Out at 14th fence)1989
Sidbury Hill finished 13 from 14 finishers.
Smartside [14] (Refused at 15th fence)Is that enough for you, but if you want to back Hello Bud, then its worth knowing teenagers recent records.
see STATS dont matter these days . Hello Bud had great form up to 3m2f and finished 3rd to dont push it in a earlier race . dont let AGE decieve you!! a lesson learnt
Bookies must love you.
Let’s forget about the 28 teenagers who have tried to win the national since 1989 and failed.
The statistics say horses aged 8 to 12, but why?
This is just my theory on why and the be lot’s of people who will argue the toss. This forum is full of them.
7 year olds lack the experience and 13 + lack the speed. As you get older you’ve not as fast or nimble as you used to be, horses as well. If this trend is broken I think it’ll be by a 7 year old who matured quickly.
I remember one chaser decades ago, who actually ran better as a fourteen-year old than at any time in his career; winning several fair handicaps races, if I remember corectly. Can’t remember his name, unfortunately.
I think you may mean Mac Vidi trained and owned by Pam Neal he had an extraordinary season in 79/80 even finishing up placed in the Gold cup .
I believe he died soon after its as though he was on a final flingBookies must love you.
Let’s forget about the 28 teenagers who have tried to win the national since 1989 and failed.
The statistics say horses aged 8 to 12, but why?
This is just my theory on why and the be lot’s of people who will argue the toss. This forum is full of them.
7 year olds lack the experience and 13 + lack the speed. As you get older you’ve not as fast or nimble as you used to be, horses as well. If this trend is broken I think it’ll be by a 7 year old who matured quickly.
I think its also because 8 to 12 year olds are also more battle hardened .
If you look at most National winners and placed horses they are used to the hustle and bustle of big fields in races run at a proper pace.
Unfortunately though most 13+ year olds have run with credit in the race anno domini has caught up with them .
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Or,maybe, Sonny Somers?
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