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- November 8, 2022 at 18:21 #1622281
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Definitely be considering an Antepost here, though fairly hefty shortlist at this stage.
Last years winner Snow Leopardess heads the market along with Gesskile, who narrowly missed out here in The Grand Sefton, and Cork National winner Captain Kangaroo.
Looking elsewhere right now though, for all that the last two named are horses I really like.
Hill Sixteen
Close second in this last year, and although a fair bit higher this time around, his comeback run was very encouraging, and stable a lot more forward this year.Lostintranslation
Seemed to enjoy himself in The National, taking to it well, and only folding late on. I’d imagine they’ll want a prep run into him sooner rather than later, but given a proper chance by handicapper, and must have a chanceCloth Cap
He’s finally coming back to last winning mark, and though there has to be a chance that he’s rapidly regressing, I’m in no rush to write him off. Has a prep run under his belt, and connections will be keen to land this. The right profile I look for here, and just have to convince myself that he’s well handicapped, rather than gone.Five Star Getaway
Not the most obvious one for me, but declared at Bangor tomorrow, and worth a look given trainers record in races like this in recent times.Percussion
Continued his progression in The Grand Sefton, and I think the extra distance just might eke out more improvement. Nice horse, and looks a tad overpriced on Saturdays run.Recite A Prayer
Mullins doesn’t seem to target this, but no getting away from the profile of this horse, who’s lurking on what’s surely a generous mark, and acquitting himself well in staying chases of lateRoi Mage
Think he’s a cert to run here, and though up a good few pounds for his Down Royal win, he’s a horse I like, and he should handle that hike. Looks too big at 33’sCelebre D’Allen
This is a horse I’m a huge fan of, and I’m sure he’s way better than current mark, and given that there’s not too many races jumping out for him in next few weeks, I think he’s a mad price at 25’sEnqarde
Had a quiet spin over hurdles the other day, and on the manner of his Tommy Whittle win, and from this yard, he’s definitely got a chance, particularly as he’s been eased a few poundsFrancky Du Berlais
Great run at Market Rasen in the summer, following on from his fine run here in The Topham. Almost a stone higher than that Aintree run, but he’s clearly as good as he’s ever been, likes it here, and from a yard that takes this race very seriously. Big priceCommodore
Grand National was a non event for him, after missing the start, but he goes well fresh, and hasn’t been seen since that day in April. The manner of his win at Cheltenham in December was something else, and I suspect he’s better than current mark. The only negative I can think of is that they might target Chepstow, or the Cheltenham meeting in DecemberDomaine De L’Isle
Remote fourth in this last year, but can be forgiven his unseat at The Chair in April. Crucially, way below last winning mark, and the 33’s is just wrong. Runs potentially at Cheltenham on Sunday, and I’d be surprised if he’s still 33’s after that.The Jam Man
Recent form is rather uninspiring, but he’s surely going to pop up at some point, and his run in The Troytown is always in the back of my mindDe Rasher Counter
Had his issues since his big Newbury win, but seems to retain a fair bit of ability since his setback, and not completely written offMinella Bobo
Probably the least likely of these, but yard can spring shocks, and I’ve seen bits and pieces from him. Should know more after Bangor tomorrow.That just scratches the surface, and it’s the best set of entries I’ve seen for some time.
From that lot I had a shortlist of…
Cloth Cap
Hill Sixteen
Commodore
Domaine De L’Isle
Roi Mage
Francky Du BerlaisHad to whittle it down again, so holding off with Hill Sixteen, as price shouldn’t contract too much, and being a Sandy Thomson horse, I’ll probably cover him on the day.
Cloth Cap looks increasingly well handicapped, but has the suspicion that he might also be regressing, while I just wonder if the main target for Roi Mage is The National, and this might blow his mark, while Francky is on a career high mark.
Roi Mage and Francky were the hardest ones not to bet.
In the end, I’ve got Commodore and Domaine De L’Isle as the ones I’m close to getting.
Both have their own risks, with Commodore having other potential targets, and the real chance that Domaine could blow his mark on Sunday.
No money down yet, but with both at 33’s, I’m on the verge of getting them
Commodore
Domaine De L’IsleNovember 8, 2022 at 19:57 #1622297I’ll wait nearer time for betting but so far I like
Francky Du Berlais
Domaine De L’IsleCloth Cap as always followed him, though I know he has a few entries elsewhere so will have to see where he turns up
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November 8, 2022 at 23:28 #1622313Gesskille 12-1 ew. Due to run here next. Jockey’s saddle slipped at the Canal Turn in the Grand Sefton and he still nearly won. Trainer believes the extra distance will suit.
November 9, 2022 at 05:14 #1622338Hill sixteen with the yard flying will be a play as will lostintranslationn , he was in a different league to these and as Bobby said he loved the fences , another best fresh if he gets in a rhythm then he may well out clad them
Lostintranslation
Hill sixteen
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November 9, 2022 at 05:37 #1622342Gesskille has gone up 4lb for Saturday, but he’s a progressive 6yo, rising seven, though much of his form is at intermediate distances it was often in desperate ground and he seems to stay well and there are those reports his saddle slipped.
12/1 seems fair for what looks a logical target for him.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"November 9, 2022 at 19:24 #1622398Didero Valis is my early bet at 40-1. He ran well in it last year, and he’s going to be running off a mark of 127, compared to 137 last year. I don’t know if he will be my main bet on the day, but I think that he’s a good bet at 40-1 just now
November 11, 2022 at 09:55 #1622508Always liked Didero Vallis mate. Reckon I’ll bet him tomorrow at Cheltenham. Hopefully he runs well and you have a nice bet then at 40’s.
Mike, I was unaware about the saddle slip on Gesskile on Saturday. I’d bet him, and it must have made a difference. Don’t change my mind like this too often, but it definitely swayed me, and as I said, I just really like the horse. I took the 16’s, as I thought that was very fair.
I’ll definitely add one of the other pair, and a lot will depend on Domaine De L’Isle if gets declared for Sunday.
Commodore
Domaine De L’Isle
Gesskile 16’sNovember 11, 2022 at 10:20 #1622515My entire season last year was geared towards Snow Leopardess going to the Grand National. While the journey was fun, the destination was less so. I won’t be abandoning her any time soon, for all she does need cut in the ground. They won’t be going nearly as quick in this, so I’ll be taking some of the 10’s while they last.
I was convinced the Sefton had Lostintranslation written all over it, but they sidestepped it, presumably in favour of this. Far too well handicapped, even on last year’s form, and the way he took to the fences screams a big run here. 20/1 is very big. Speaking of…
As Bobby said; the National was a non event for Commodore after missing the start (very uncharacteristic for his jockey). Given a proper start; he could very much replicate Snow Leopardess’ performance from last year with a bold front-running display. 33/1 will do me right.
It is a smashing set of entries, though I’m amazed to see The Galloping Bear missing.
November 13, 2022 at 16:36 #1623032Ashtown Lad for me 16-1. He ran well in grand sefton, and he looks like one that will actually run here
November 15, 2022 at 16:54 #1623225The veterans chase at Warwick tomorrow could prove quite informative with a few of these due to line up.
November 28, 2022 at 16:45 #1625014Gesskile now as low as 4’s in places, and I’d definitely lay stake back at those odds just now, but can see him remaining very backable on the exchange.
Either way, definitely be going at least double handed in this, but no option but to wait now.
Cloth Cap very very big price, but holds an entry at Kelso, and no option to wait.
Hill Sixteen the other one right now, but very definitely no more till Thursday at the earliest.
Gesskile 16’s
November 28, 2022 at 18:07 #1625026Eyeing up plenty of others at big prices to back up my old favourite.
Fortescue is only 2lb higher for his Ascot win and is a big price on that evidence, but has a torrent of other entries. Will have to wait and see.
Percussion did little wrong in the Sefton and has won over 3 miles, so the extra distance shouldn’t be an issue. Still down the weights and is likely to line up.
De Rasher Counter really took the eye last time out, showing plenty of enthusiasm. Easy to forget this is a Hennessy winner. Was unlucky in the Grand National.
I can’t/won’t have four, so I’ll be waiting for nearer the time, hoping the prices don’t contract too much. Hopeful of a big field.
November 28, 2022 at 18:52 #1625029A dry 5 days now forecast, so likely need to take that into account as Saturday approaches.
At present it is Soft, good-soft in places.
Would think the “soft” will disappear by Saturday.November 29, 2022 at 00:01 #1625051Had another look tonight, and going to follow Lemons in with Didero Vallis. Bet him last time, and got a good run for my money. Sixth in this last year, and comes here 10lbs lower, so that’s enough to sway me.
Didero Vallis 33’s
Gesskile 16’sNovember 29, 2022 at 07:58 #1625075My ew 2…
Gesskille 12-1
Percussion 20-1Considering Gesskille is around 4-1 now, Percussion’s price looks too big. 7lb pull with Gesskille and the 3 miles ought to suit better than the Grand Sefton distance (outpaced then ran on). There shouldn’t be a lot between them. Lifetime Ambition’s brave run at the weekend gave the form a bit of a boost too.
November 30, 2022 at 11:12 #1625158I’ve bet two here, with Percussion at 25-1, and Hill Sixteen at 10-1
November 30, 2022 at 15:53 #1625185The current 33-1 for Top Ville Ben looks big to me. He’s my choice to go along with my Ashtown Lad bet, but I’ll definitely wait now for the final line up
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