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It says page 115 on ATR for Wolves betting, no betting appears but page 115 of RUK comes up on mine.
Racing is not seen by the BBC as a politically correct or fashionable sport. The thinking there is more likely to be along those lines than any concept of service
Look at the sports covered by their own Radio 5 in the evenings. Formula one (what do they find to talk about for more than 10 minutes ffs), Boxing (how many watch that now), athletics (discredited and finished)….but no programme for racing…which at the very least has plenty of conversation points
Yes, indeed, althought they might legitimately be able to fill rather more than 10 minutes tonight in the light of today’s developments in Paris!
But, as far as BBC radio sport is concerned, if it ain’t football, it’s of no importance. Every Friday lunchtime at 1pm on radio 5 there’s a "sports panel discussion", and when they have to talk about a sport other than football, the contributors get a kind of flat tone to their voice, and don’t actually discuss the sports event itself, but waffle about the sport in general.
It’s certainly not confined to racing (we don’t need to become paranoid about it) – last month when Suzi Perry was trying to discuss the British Moto GP event, all the panellists were prepared to do was slag off the sport, one contribution being that he’d been to a motorcycle meeting as a small boy and found it too noisy. Basically, they were pissed off with having to talk about a non-football sport, and were too lazy to bother to prepare for anything else .To her great credit, Perry took it all in good part, but underneath she must have been seething.
If you tune in tomorrow, don’t expect to hear any chat about the St Leger!
I never said it was perfect I remebber when I used to watch American racing the ATR text used to stop at midnight even though the show carried on. We need to find out who does the text service and complain.
Was late starting this afternoon though they missed the pre betting at Doncaster
I find Ceefax the fastest, most reliable source for course inspection news in the winter mornings. It’s a shame as most of the analogue service had transferred successfully to the digital service on bbci. Meanwhile, Teletext on 4 on Freeview can be painfully slow.
very sad to hear ceefax is being dumped. its always the first port of call for results, as others have stated the text service on ATR is rubbish and its a 50/50 chance wether or not its working. also, i find ceefax fantastic for going and advanced goings, even stating which courses are watering. on the other hand (unless i’m blind, please advise) i cannot find any going descriptions on the ATR website, not even for tomorrows racing. just another fly in the ointment of punter v bookmaker.
RUK’s text service is worse. From what I can recall, it doesn’t carry any Irish results. Must be pretty confident that you’ll come back to them if they actively encourage you to switch to another channel.
Racing is not seen by the BBC as a politically correct or fashionable sport. The thinking there is more likely to be along those lines than any concept of service
Look at the sports covered by their own Radio 5 in the evenings. Formula one (what do they find to talk about for more than 10 minutes ffs), Boxing (how many watch that now), athletics (discredited and finished)….but no programme for racing…which at the very least has plenty of conversation points
Yes, indeed, althought they might legitimately be able to fill rather more than 10 minutes tonight in the light of today’s developments in Paris!
But, as far as BBC radio sport is concerned, if it ain’t football, it’s of no importance. Every Friday lunchtime at 1pm on radio 5 there’s a "sports panel discussion", and when they have to talk about a sport other than football, the contributors get a kind of flat tone to their voice, and don’t actually discuss the sports event itself, but waffle about the sport in general.
It’s certainly not confined to racing (we don’t need to become paranoid about it) – last month when Suzi Perry was trying to discuss the British Moto GP event, all the panellists were prepared to do was slag off the sport, one contribution being that he’d been to a motorcycle meeting as a small boy and found it too noisy. Basically, they were pissed off with having to talk about a non-football sport, and were too lazy to bother to prepare for anything else .To her great credit, Perry took it all in good part, but underneath she must have been seething.
If you tune in tomorrow, don’t expect to hear any chat about the St Leger!
Couldn’t agree more!!!
I like a lot of sports, including football, but I’m sick to death of it being rammed down my throat every minute, every hour, every day. Agree as well about the way presenters are totally useless if not talking about football. Hello, wake up there are other fantastic cports out there, including Racing. It’s a disgrace the way they have treated the sport. Their argument over Ceefax holds no water, if viewers can get their info on the net, why not do it for all sports, so there is no need for Ceefax.
How many meetings have they simply not bothered with this year? Ascot,Haydock, Goodwood, etc, they used to cover them, and on week days, so why not any more? Couldn’t make it any more plainer that they hate the sport.In a word "horrified" somes up this statement from the BBC.
I to am a Virgin subscriber where nothing works and no red button racing. Why should someone pay for a service that is essentially free and supplied by William Hill to promote itself anyway? There are a lot of people who don’t have the internet or where work has banned internet gambling (my job including) so ceefax was always a free and easy alternative.
I love analogue Ceefax and almost addicted to the sports pages the new text on bbc-i and sky is just not as good I’m afraid.
I can’t believe the Beeb would rather show womens football, gymnastics and drug based athletics over the sport of kings.
Am I just an old dragon or am I right to stand my ground on ceefax something that I grew up with why should it play second fiddle to the internet?
I can’t believe the Beeb would rather show womens football, gymnastics and drug based athletics over the sport of kings
I can…. unfortunately
Without sounding like a Richard littlejohn (and i emphactically am not) these are very "politically correct" sports
athletics gets lumps of coverage…but how many people actually follow it?
Radio five is a bit of a disgrace these days.
I’ve just put in an offical complaint on line with the Dweeb and would encourage any other ceefax lovers to do the same, not that they will listen but this is a democratic society after all!!
I can’t believe the Beeb would rather show womens football, gymnastics and drug based athletics over the sport of kings
I can…. unfortunately
Without sounding like a Richard littlejohn (and i emphactically am not) these are very "politically correct" sports
An exaggeration, perhaps. The posho, still essentially socially exclusive sports of rugby union and rowing are still more than adequately served, whilst at the other end of the class spectrum so is darts.
I’d regard the incumbent BBC Sports regime as being ignorant of racing for the greater part compared to its forebears, rather than of being in active pursuit of an agenda of right-on sports to the exclusion of all else.
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In the great scheme of things racing’s outsourced coverage on ceefax must have been a cheap product and I’m so disappointed that they have dropped it before the analogue service is switched off.
If we can have pages dedicated to the Blue Square Premiership line-ups (which as a Cambridge United fan I also surf….) why have they felt the need to drop racing??
I’ve no problem with the BBC showing the Women’s Football. I think the standard is sufficently high to warranty it, notwithstanding it is a World Cup, and it makes a refreshing change from the Premiership. Equally, I found the BBC’s coverage of last year’s (or was it this year?
) Commonwealth Games, with sports such as: Badminton, Squash, Bowls, Tabletennis etc, well presented and very enjoyable. And of course, who could forget the night of Britain’s Curling success at the Olympics again brought to us by the BBC. So, I don’t view this as being, or should be, a Racing v Others debate/decision. I think all sports should be represented in proportion by a Public Service Broadcaster.What I find perplexing about this decision is fact the BBC are unable to reconise, and unwilling to promote or support a quailty service, which I view Ceefax Racing as being, within the scope of its remit of course. Therefore, I as others on here, can only view this as part of a strategic decision already taken that will eventually lead to the BBC withdrawing from racing altogether, perhaps with the exception of The National.
Is it any wonder the BBC would eventually withdraw from supporting horse racing?
They were lambasted and derided whilst investigating undesirable activities within the sport, and have seen some of the culprits they exposed then continue to this day.
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