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- March 14, 2012 at 00:16 #396471
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http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics … -interviewMarch 14, 2012 at 03:00 #396486The BBC barely functions as anything other than a govt mouthpiece now, they can report on election protests in Moscow but not on NHS protests in London

The BBC have given up on racing in preference to outrageously expensive, partial coverage of F1 and pretty much any other sport that costs virtually nothing to broadcast. With C4 being the only terrestrial broadcaster of the sport, it seems apparent that the beeb wouldn’t have any vested interest in showing racing in anything other than a sensational light. I’ve almost given up on the BBC as an unbiased source of news. It is my opinion that the demise of the BBC as an impartial network is the whole (real) reason why Mark Thompson is leaving after the Olympics.March 14, 2012 at 06:44 #396500Get real – what news organisation leads with "Good news, the fav won the Arkle" ?
That’s exactly what used to happen on the BBC but concentrating on the Champion Hurdle not the Arkle.
They knock racing every year at the start of Cheltenham which is why I specifically watched the 6.00pm news and I wasn’t disappointed with their planned whip report by a clueless (on horse racing) sports reporter.
March 14, 2012 at 08:33 #396504Of course it would not occur to anyone on here that the reports merely reflect the majority view of the general public in regard to horse racing. The public perception is that horse racing is corrupt to the core, the failure of horse racing to promote itself positively comes from within.
March 14, 2012 at 08:45 #39651090% plus of the Ten O’Clock News viewers couldn’t give a toss who won the Champion Hurdle or the Arkle or even that the Cheltenham Festival is taking place.
However a significant number would, I suspect, be concerned that three horses have died in the name of sport – such concern is part of our national psyche whether we like it or not.
The reality is horses dying in a race is news and the circumstances surrounding the deaths should be questioned openly and not swept under the carpet.
Joe Wilson has been covering the whip story for the BBC since last October so it is little surprise he is still covering it now.
March 14, 2012 at 09:47 #396519I’m afraid Paulostermeyer is right.
Yes, the BBC’s treatment of "animal cruelty" is hypocritical in the extreme, and we in racing all know of far worse things happening to animals than being a national hunt racehorse.
But…, there is a genuine problem here, and it does need to be addressed.
Crying "not fair" is all very well, and is quite justifiable, but it won’t make the issue go away.
March 14, 2012 at 09:53 #39652190% plus of the Ten O’Clock News viewers couldn’t give a toss who won the Champion Hurdle or the Arkle or even that the Cheltenham Festival is taking place.
However a significant number would, I suspect, be concerned that three horses have died in the name of sport – such concern is part of our national psyche whether we like it or not.
The reality is horses dying in a race is news and the circumstances surrounding the deaths should be questioned openly and not swept under the carpet.
Joe Wilson has been covering the whip story for the BBC since last October so it is little surprise he is still covering it now.
I suspect that well over 99% of viewers of the 6.00 news couldn’t give a toss about some incompetent sports reporter rehashing old stuff about the whip. If he’s been covering the issue for 6 months he certainly hasn’t garnered much knowledge about the subject.
The BBC do it every year at the start of Cheltenham, trying to hijack the racing with some preordained rubbish.
There’s no doubt the BBC has gone sadly down the hill in recent years and doesn’t deserve a licence fee anymore.
40 grand a week for Hansen for MOTD says it all.March 14, 2012 at 10:01 #39652490% plus of the Ten O’Clock News viewers couldn’t give a toss who won the Champion Hurdle or the Arkle or even that the Cheltenham Festival is taking place.
However a significant number would, I suspect, be concerned that three horses have died in the name of sport – such concern is part of our national psyche whether we like it or not.
The reality is horses dying in a race is news and the circumstances surrounding the deaths should be questioned openly and not swept under the carpet.
Joe Wilson has been covering the whip story for the BBC since last October so it is little surprise he is still covering it now.
I suspect that well over 99% of viewers of the 6.00 news couldn’t give a toss about some incompetent sports reporter rehashing old stuff about the whip. If he’s been covering the issue for 6 months he certainly hasn’t garnered much knowledge about the subject.
The BBC do it every year at the start of Cheltenham, trying to hijack the racing with some preordained rubbish.
There’s no doubt the BBC has gone sadly down the hill in recent years and doesn’t deserve a licence fee anymore.
40 grand a week for Hansen for MOTD says it all.If you base your opinion of the BBC purely on its coverage of sporting events you probably dont deserve to have eyes.
March 14, 2012 at 10:04 #396525I suspect that well over 99% of viewers of the 6.00 news couldn’t give a toss about some incompetent sports reporter rehashing old stuff about the whip. If he’s been covering the issue for 6 months he certainly hasn’t garnered much knowledge about the subject.
The BBC do it every year at the start of Cheltenham, trying to hijack the racing with some preordained rubbish.
So that’s all right then.
Racing has nothing to worry about, and no problems exist.
March 14, 2012 at 10:16 #396528If you base your opinion of the BBC purely on its coverage of sporting events you probably dont deserve to have eyes.
Who said that? Do you know something I don’t?
You only have to watch that weekly feedback programme on the BBC with Raymond Snoddy to see the repeated failings of the BBC and many excellent points and compaints put forward by viewers on programmes.
Some go unanswered by BBC bosses, producers etc even on a programme on their own channel. Many of them are in respect of news/current affairs.
Do you consider the BBC worth every penny of the licence fee?
March 14, 2012 at 10:33 #396531I suspect that well over 99% of viewers of the 6.00 news couldn’t give a toss about some incompetent sports reporter rehashing old stuff about the whip. If he’s been covering the issue for 6 months he certainly hasn’t garnered much knowledge about the subject.
The BBC do it every year at the start of Cheltenham, trying to hijack the racing with some preordained rubbish.
So that’s all right then.
Racing has nothing to worry about, and no problems exist.
Venusian, your post doesn’t make sense.
Paul Ostermeyer states 90% of viewers don’t give a toss about the Champion Hurdle so it doesn’t matter if it’s on the news but he finds it acceptable that a rehashed whip issue should appear from an incompetent sports reporter that even less are interested in.
If you’re going to have a controversial report on the subject at
least keep it up to date and have a certain level of knowledge from the reporter.Not that I agree with the assumption that you don’t bother about news that the majority don’t give a toss about.
March 14, 2012 at 10:49 #396536BBC3 and 4 are the areas where some real talent is unearthed. Not everything they make is good but at least the public funding does provide an opportunity for genuine talent (as opposed to X factor type programmes) to flourish. It is perhaps significant that these channels only start broadcasting at 7pm and do have a lot of repeats, thereby showing that 24/7 broadcasting has led to an inevitable watering down in quality.
Whether it actually is democratic is arguable but the BBC represents free speech. As a public institution we cannot cherry pick the bits we like and dismiss the rest, we accept it for all its faults or we end up locking up people for daring to think.As Not the Nine O’Clock News parodied "The test card is worth the licence fee alone"
March 14, 2012 at 10:53 #396537You only have to watch that weekly feedback programme on the BBC with Raymond Snoddy to see the repeated failings of the BBC and many excellent points and compaints put forward by viewers on programmes.
Speaking generally, it’s always seemed to be the case that the right thinks the Beeb is a bunch of commie pinkoes and the left thinks it’s the voice of the right. Twas ever thus.
The Beeb has its failings, not least its racing coverage, but I don’t think its coverage is skewed particularly one way or another. Rather the Beeb than Fox News, that’s for sure.
And it annoys the Daily Mail, which makes it fine with me.
March 14, 2012 at 11:03 #396539You’re not missing out on anything Miss Woodford. It’s nothing more than a transparent tactic employed by the right to use pseudo intellectualisms to mask the fact that their arguments typically reek of a severe inferiority complex.
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Marxists were really rather named by themselves, dear. I encounter far more pseudo-intellectual talk in the left-wing media than the right. You only have to look how many Pseuds Corner entries in Private Eye come from the Guardian and how many come from the Daily Mail*
Answer: a lot and virtually none.
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