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- August 24, 2019 at 12:07 #1452052
Battaash isn’t just the best sprinter, he’s the best racehorse of 2019.
Value Is EverythingAugust 24, 2019 at 12:17 #1452058He definitely isnt.
August 24, 2019 at 12:35 #1452067He is the best racehorse based on an individual performance not the year combined
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August 24, 2019 at 13:36 #1452081Other horses may be more consistent, Nathan. But Battaash is the horse that can put up the best performance. That means his best form is better than any other horse can put up at their best. ie Battaash is the best racehorse.
Value Is EverythingAugust 24, 2019 at 13:44 #1452084If judging the best by Ratings then yes.
I’m happy not to do that.
But delighted Crystal Ocean has been overtaken on ratings as he is overratedGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
August 24, 2019 at 13:48 #1452086@NathanHughes
You are wrong Nathan – Sheldon Cooper knows best and don’t you forget it.
August 24, 2019 at 13:51 #1452088Sheldon knows too much Matron but thankfully I will forget it as I forget everything
Its no good being officially the highest rated horse if you are a serial loser like Crystal Ocean
I’d take Enables wins and Prize money any day of the week over an inflated rating
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August 24, 2019 at 13:53 #1452089No ginger thats seriously incorrect
Its so far incorrect its not even in the scale of incorrect
Its utter nonsense
“Battash can put up the best perforamce of all horses in 2019” jeeeeesus. I thank the lord himself that your merely a punter and not a handicapper
His form is not better than every orher horse either thats also just idiotic.
If timeform say something your like a dog with a new chewtoy.
August 24, 2019 at 14:12 #1452090…And yet you can not say why, ham.
Value Is EverythingAugust 24, 2019 at 14:18 #1452091You’re yet again using a straw man arguement, Nathan.
Value Is EverythingAugust 24, 2019 at 14:23 #1452092What would you rather have if you owned a racehorse ginger.??
Timeform highest rated with 1 group 1
or a 1 lb worse off rating but 2 x Arc and 2 x KG
Simple as that Straw manGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
August 24, 2019 at 14:27 #1452093Timeform ratings are for individual performances aren’t they. Inasmuch as you can judge a sprinter against a middle distance horse (like judging a champion hurdler against a 3m staying chaser) I’d say bolting home alone with nothing to race against in a course record time is worthy of the top rating. Ok he didn’t beat much but the time tells its own story. The fact that he wouldn’t win over 6f on soft or if he went bonkers at the start again is neither here nor there. For consistency, versatility in trip and finding a way to win in the face of any ground conditions, team tactics, lack of race fitness etc then Enable and probably Stradivarius are better racehorses. But for one stellar performance the Nunthorpe was it.
August 24, 2019 at 14:29 #1452094Ratings are not the holy grail, never said they are. But they do show how good each horse is at their bests.
Enable has the best consistency, which is a wonderful asset but different.
Battaash has the best form – best form rating, which means at their bests Battaash is the best.Value Is EverythingAugust 24, 2019 at 14:33 #1452095Sorry Nathan I missed where you had said that about individual vs all year performance.
As regards who would I rather own out of Battaash, Enable, Stradivarius and Crystal Ocean…
the latter, for the stud value!
If just for the sake of the racing career- Enable probably, with Stradivarius a close second.August 24, 2019 at 14:49 #1452096Yes, interesting point regard the stud value
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August 24, 2019 at 14:51 #1452097Timeform highest rating with 1 Group 1
Not that it has anything to do with how high a rating can be, but Battaash has won 2 Group 1’s. 2017 Abbeye the other one.
Battaash has also put up 6 individual Timeform performance ratings of 130+ in his life. Enable has just 1 to her name, albeit would be 4 if adding the 3 lb allowance.
Value Is EverythingAugust 24, 2019 at 14:55 #1452098I was talking about CO with the 1 group 1
and I’m well aware of how good Battaash is
I was the only one in TTF Competition to originally pick him including subs I believeGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
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