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Your taking all that on faith and trainers as much as the likes of elliot mullins etc etc are geniuses with the animals they train, everything “stays all day” until its beaten and everything was “spot on for the race” until afterwards “maybe it wasnt” chacun pour soi etc and a milloon more examples, they always live in an element of hope and in the excitement that they have “the one” thats what aiden does on the flat thats how all the greats view it “amedeo modigliani” springs to mind, “could be anything”, i always take what they say with great admiration but also great caution
The comment kev made regarding riding davy riding with his legs is bang on, i thought envoi had alot left, until 50 yards out, then i immediately was convinced there was nothing left and ive watched it over and over, there wasnt much left.
Hes by no means and 11/8 fav after this, its also a guess to say what was in behind him is any good, although i do believe your right on that, i think 1 of the 2 in behind will surpass him in time, with a horse like the cashal man etc in this likely to turn it into a slog, he wont stay. Once abacadabras (mengli khan) gets beaten, they will bring him back in trip to the supreme, where he would be by far better suited
Ham unless something comes from the woodwork pretty quick what’s bearing aba at the DRF? Trying to have a think but it’s tough to get one. I’ll be taking him on come Cheltenham no bother
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Gavin Lynch and David Jennings discussing excitement around Envoi Allen vs Samcro worship a couple of years ago:
” Samcro is like a posh fella, a solicitor from Dalkey or something. Envoi Allen is more like a GAA footballer from Kells”.Your taking all that on faith and trainers as much as the likes of elliot mullins etc etc are geniuses with the animals they train, everything “stays all day” until its beaten and everything was “spot on for the race” until afterwards “maybe it wasnt” chacun pour soi etc and a milloon more examples, they always live in an element of hope and in the excitement that they have “the one” thats what aiden does on the flat thats how all the greats view it “amedeo modigliani” springs to mind, “could be anything”, i always take what they say with great admiration but also great caution
The comment kev made regarding riding davy riding with his legs is bang on, i thought envoi had alot left, until 50 yards out, then i immediately was convinced there was nothing left and ive watched it over and over, there wasnt much left.
Hes by no means and 11/8 fav after this, its also a guess to say what was in behind him is any good, although i do believe your right on that, i think 1 of the 2 in behind will surpass him in time, with a horse like the cashal man etc in this likely to turn it into a slog, he wont stay. Once abacadabras (mengli khan) gets beaten, they will bring him back in trip to the supreme, where he would be by far better suited
First paragraph – waffle
Horse is doing the talking, trainer comments are just that, comments.
Second paragraph – don’t agree
. Never wins by much, was just dossing in front.
Third paragraph – he is mostly 6/4 not 11/8. Did you back supreme by any chance
It’s fine to agree to disagree.
I agree Mike, took some 20s after that race yesterday aswell.
His change of gear when Nico gave him a slap was very taking. Huntingdon for the Sidney Banks next which should be perfect on route here.
Both recent winners owned by the Donnelly’s have been said to need further. Asterion + Shishkin. Doubt they both run here is my worry.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!I may cash out my Shishkin bet for this. The Big Getaway will probably come here after his win at the weekend, and Shishkin the Supreme now that he is down to 4-1 favourite. Not convinced 2 miles will suit ideally, however owner will likely split them.
I wouldn’t be surprised if The Big Getaway missed Cheltenham but he’s an Albert Bartlett horse if he runs, surely?
Anyone know why Sporting John missed his engagement on trials day?
Ballymore on the radar….
https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/getaway-enters-ballymore-frame/176626
Hmmmm. Ruby seemed more interested in the staying race for him
That article confuses Big Breakaway and Big Getaway. Former is 8s with Sky for this, the latter is 12s.
Sporting John supposed to be going to Exeter next week for the listed 2 mile race Mark.
Horse is doing the talking, trainer comments are just that, comments.
. Never wins by much, was just dossing in front.
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