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July 31, 2023 at 13:07 #1657325
Make for an interesting book as there are plenty of moments and scandal involving pacemakers. You could include Golden Freeze who was scandalously ridden to impede Carvill’s Hill in the Gold Cup, Ms Pitman escaped any slap on the wrist.
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July 31, 2023 at 18:03 #1657387I thought it amusing when Sovereign galloped gaily off in front in the Irish Derby to run the legs off Madhmoon….and stayed there, in front of Antony van Dyck.
July 31, 2023 at 20:00 #1657424Two days on and the boys aren’t putting forward an explanation for the poor run, maybe more to it.
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July 31, 2023 at 21:20 #1657433Could have been flight/plane related. Maybe the legroom in the Business Class caused some sort of problems.
July 31, 2023 at 22:30 #1657447Not sounding like there is an obvious explanation forthcoming at the moment…..could be it will be filed under ‘he just had a massive off day’
July 31, 2023 at 22:40 #1657451That whole report is a case of say something for the sake of saying something. They were very vocal after the Guineas but pretty tight lipped now.
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July 31, 2023 at 23:01 #1657458Okay, let’s assume he would win a weak Irish Champion Stakes (which is rather unlikely to happen) against his stable companions. Where would he go next? To stud or a crack at the Breeders’ Cup Turf?
July 31, 2023 at 23:38 #1657469If true that would kind of rule out the Breeders Cup as I doubt you would want to take him on a boat that far
August 1, 2023 at 00:20 #1657472So basically hes an equine Dennis Bergkamp aka ” the non flying dutchman ” . Great on his day if hes travelled by coach and not fretting about how he gets home .
August 1, 2023 at 00:40 #1657475Yes LD, you’re right about the trip to the US. Most likely he’ll stay on home soil and have his final race at Leopardstown. Or maybe he’s already had his final race. The Lads wouldn’t want to do further damage to the reputation and stud value of a dual Derby winner, I guess.
August 1, 2023 at 08:52 #1657511How did he get to Epsom.
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August 1, 2023 at 10:51 #1657549He normally flies his horses over on the morning of the race but the early start for this year’s Derby, plus the likelihood of more traffic due to the rail strike probably meant he had to bring him over the night before. I don’t remember the details though.
August 1, 2023 at 11:32 #1657565It all coincided with the abnormal improvement statement.
Adults often use distraction methods on toddlers who have a short span of attention.August 1, 2023 at 13:22 #1657603One shocking run is forgiveable – and can be classed as an ‘outlier’. Two poor runs out of four this season tells me something’s not right….or there is an issue.
I wouldn’t be sending any mares to him unless there was a reasonable excuse…..
August 1, 2023 at 15:29 #1657634For me – if there is genuinely seemingly nothing wrong with AR, then it has to be a temperament flaw in the horse. Yes, possible the trip over might have something to do with it. But it is interesting the twice he’s disappointed is the twice he’s raced in rear.
As I said before / after the Derby, it may well be he didn’t like being in behind / around horses at Newmarket. Now AR has disappointed again, if not “in behind” then certainly raced in rear both times.
Raced on the outer in mid-div in the Derby and tracked pace in Irish Derby.Does AR just sulk if racing in rear?
(Was held up when winning the Vertem last year, but was in the stand side group of only three).
Value Is EverythingAugust 1, 2023 at 17:06 #1657679“How did he get to Epsom.”
On Point Lonsdale.
November 13, 2023 at 12:48 #1670355Stays in training as a 4yo.
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