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  • #1623333
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    Glad that is out of the way!

    I thought his jumping was OK and got better as they quickened up.

    A decent horse like West Cork was struggling from an early stage.

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    Yeah the first couple of jumps were a touch sketchy but like you said once Aiden turned up the tempo he looked much smoother

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    His jumping was excellent

    First he screwed his back end a little, but he quickly improved

    The 5 down the back at Warwick are a tough test for a novice and he pinged them quickly and accurately

    Monmiral also jumped nicely but got done for speed, he needs 2m4f

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    Yeah I hadn’t realised there were so many jumps at the track, somewhat reminiscent of sandown where the jumping down the back straight has to be good or you’ll get found out

    #1623338
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    Ham do you still think he has no chance?

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    Very impressive- but 7/4 when WPM has about 10 potential contenders is daft. Can’t keep moaning about these prices though as for now it’s how they are operating…

    Twitter: Jackh1092
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    Ridiculous price isn’t it

    But then the 7/2 pre race was also a terrible price so not surprising

    He will surely be no shorter than 6/4-2/1 on the day

    #1623354
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    The prices are skinny. No doubt about that. But if the race was tomorrow people would snap it up. It’s only the risk of injury imo that makes it seem stingy.

    Who can be put forward where you can say he’s likely to be better than Jonbon at this stage? His pedigree says fences, his form is the best of any horse entered thus far and he did a number on 2 talented horses on debut.

    Yes it’s short, but the bookies have got to trim him at some point so I’m not sure how much bigger people expect?

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    Couldn’t have went any better , Jack has a point that the Irish will throw 2 or 3 horses at him but at this point he,s as bullet proof as any horse bar CH

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    Yeah mike, why would i think otherwise? Lol it was a non event, monmiral has been beaten off botox has 11 lengths, epetante 14 lengths eased, 16 lengths off not so sleepy

    Why on earth would i change my mind based off that? Lol

    Not to mention monmirals jumping was horrendous,

    Dont get hurt when intake a strong view saying hes no chance, its the only way ill put money on something, i firmly stand by it, laying him
    This far out around evs is a dream

    El fab should have and would have beaten him if not for one mistake after ONE previous hurdles run, why on earth would that today make me change my mind, el fab (assuming they both get there in one piece) will bury him and as jack said, theres about 10 other horses from
    The yard that could do the job…

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    Which are the ten horses that would beat him?

    It’s all well and good trying to look smart by offering a different opinion to the one facts laid out in front of people show a coherent case, but unless you can back up what you’re saying with some form of detail then you just make yourself look stupid.

    But reading the majority of the rest the drivel you post it’s hardly a surprise.

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    “Which are the ten horses that would beat him?”

    I’m looking forward to seeing this list of superstars, too.

    #1623437
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    “He will surely be no shorter than 6/4-2/1 on the day.”

    Shishkin’s SP was 4/9.

    #1623439
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    El Fabiolo does not have any entries for this weekend. He is going to be starting his season fairly late when he does finally appear.

    Looking at the other horses prominent in the betting:

    Appreciate It has no entries and is injury prone.

    Banbridge, Mighty Potter and Three Stripe Life all look more suited to the Turners.

    Sir Gerhard, State Man and Dysart Dynamo only have entries over hurdles.

    2/1 might well look short for a race in March but to anyone who says that, what price would you be prepared to lay?

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    Rpr of 159 for jonbon

    Similar to altior and shiskins chase debuts (both 160) and higher than sprinter Sacre managed (154)

    Last season’s arkle winner edwardstone did 151 on debut

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    RPRs are woeful. They appear to be plucked out of the air in order to follow a certain agenda.

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    FinalFurlong91
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    They are like official ratings just another man’s opinion

    159 seems a tad high to me

    If you’d have forced me to pluck a number it’d have been more like 155

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