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I never saw the incident so I can’t say too much but football players have scuffles every Saturday and it doesn’t draw a lot of attention. However racing is not a contact sport and shouldn’t be viewed as one. Funny as it seems to have been it’s something that racing is usually above and I’m pretty sure the Stewards will keep it that way..When’s the hanging?
Don’t know why anyone (apart from it being against the rules) would be shocked at jockeys betting yet wouldn’t bat an eyelid at trainers doing it (although it’s within the rules)
To my mind there’s little difference as both can have a considerable effect on the result of a race and both should be banned from betting.
Although he’s a poor pundit, one thing in Francome’s favour is his wit.
As for Tommo, let’s not get on to the untruths told in his tipping adverts or referring to himself in the third person, one word describes him – Disingenuous.Nonsense, Paul. I don’t need to know you or explain why either.
What, apart from your reply, is nonsense?
Your inconsistency baffles me.
What inconsistency? You are the one attempting, and failing spectacularly, to try and link two totally separate issues.
One point was about the disposal of corpses in a public environment, the other about words used to describe the cessation of life.
Put it this way, Paul and Rob – as you say, it was undeniably a statement of fact, so presumably you’d see no wrong if it was reported to you that, say, a member of your family had simply ‘dropped dead’, rather than ‘sadly collapsed and didn’t regain consciousness‘ or anything else? Of course you wouldn’t – how silly of me.
If a member of my family had ‘dropped dead’ there would be no problem telling people so. As a matter of fact a relation of my wife did a few years back, and we did describe it as such.
Rob
She has also ridden at Badminton and round the National Course in the Foxhunters which is a lot more than most of the other female racing presenters – so she may get some respect from the riders for that, especially the jump boys.
Also trains pointers under her married name of Alice Fox-Pitt in the usually competitive South Midlands Area.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
What Alice said was a lot better than what it could have been.
Destroyed.
…which would have been inaccurate, wouldn’t it? "Destroyed" pertains to a putting to sleep of a horse rather than it collapsing fatally, I thought.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
One point was about the disposal of corpses in a public environment, the other about words used to describe the cessation of life.
What was easier to execute, Paul?
The racecourse, sadly, is a public place and you have displayed an inconsistencty IMO, but it’s not the dreaded end of the world, eh?
I think the words used are totally irrelevent now; what does concern me is what happened to the horse and the fact that it walked back to the stables in such a distressed state. Would it not be better if a horse that has had a heavy fall is taken back to the stables in the horse ambulance just in case it has suffered internal injuries? I just can’t get it out of my head how awful he looked walking back.
Personally I never know who thought the word "destroyed" was appropriate in any curcmstances in relation to a horse’s death.
Don’t have any problem with what either of them said. I just thought the american incident was a bit of powder puff stuff.
What Mrs Fox-Pitt said was correct and most people would have had no problem with that. it is one thing telling it to children but this is a programme watched by grown ups and I, for one, expect to be treated like a grown up. The horse dropped dead, sadly, but unfortunately, as a farmer once, when you have live stock, you will get dead stock.
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