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You can have the next question, Cancello, as I just posed one. Assuming that we’re right, of course….
Right, got one. Just made sure it’s not readily Googable though I’m sure someone will get it, a good pub racing nurds one me thinks.
Which of the Wildenstein horses who were in training with Henry Cecil, achieved the most success after leaving the yard.
As guidance, the fact that this horse was ever in training with Cecil is not even on its Wiki page.
Back to watching the Golf now !
Hmmmm. Bit of a head-scratcher, this. Vin de France won the Prix Jacques le Marois in 1985, having started his career at Warren Place, but he doesn’t have a Wikipedia page.
I’ll have to think about this one a bit more.
Well done both of you for the Horatio Luro answer.
I think the Wildenstein horse that left Henry Cecil may have been Steinlen. He went on to have 45 races under Patrick Biancone and D Wayne Lukas, with 20 firsts, 10 seconds and 7 thirds. He won several Group/Grade One races and over three million dollars in prize money, which was a considerable sum for the mid/late 1980s. He won a Grade One race at the ripe old age of 7. He was still an entire horse when he retired, but his stud career was very average.
Correct answer, well done. In Horses In Training 1985, he is listed amongst the Cecil juveniles, number 150 in the string, but he never ran for the yard.
Since this tread is now 100 pages long, and I have not read them all, the answer to my question may already appear somewhere in the previous 99 pages.
My question comes at the end of a précis of a short story:
There was a man who grew up in rural England. He became a sporting champion in early adulthood. He then established a very successful business, one part of which was a car sales outlet in Dublin. One day he sold a car to a well known Irish jockey (famous over the obstacles but also a two time classic winner on the flat). But being in Ireland, he was not allowed to go away without buying a horse from the jockey’s dad. That horse won an Irish Lincoln for him, and set himup for a lifetime of racehorse ownership in the UK The best horse he bought came from Doncaster sales, on an indirect nod and a wink from the man who sold him his first horse. This grey won eight races in all, and was the catalyst for the owner to turn trainer when the horse was four. Two of those races are now Group1; and the grey also finished second in races on two consecutuve days at Royal Ascot. He had a highly successful stud career, with many Group winners and a very clear-cut Classic winner. The owner-turned-trainer had an extremely succesful training career for one not steeped in the racing game. He kept on as an owner when he retired from training and, as fate would have it, his last winner was named after the place where he started his first sporting career, and trained by a man, who like him, had enjoyed great success in the other sport.
The Question? Our “hero” trained a horse who won one of the major races for two-year-olds, and one of the major races for three-year-olds, but will be forever remembered for an achievement that cannot be beaten. The horse’s name is very appropriate for the initial sport of our “hero”.
What was the name of the horse, the name of the race, and what was the achievement?
Please let me know if this “whodunnit” is far too wordy and you would prefer a one sentence straightforward question.
Think I know this but I’ll let it run and check in 24 hrs. A clue – the grey horse is from the Nasrullah sire line, who though wasn’t a grey himself and whose very best progeny were not that colour, had one particular male line male line producing more many high class greys who made successful stallions.
Horse was Track Spare who won the first ever race with a stalls start in the UK. He also won the Middle Park and St James Palace Stakes. The trainer was Ron Mason, a former speedway champion.
Stumbled upon this by chance. Any puzzles involving greys around half a century back, I always look at the Nasrullah line with the ‘Sovereigns’. When searching Sovereign Path, an entry came up with a link to Mason’s obituary. It’s the downside of the internet. Sort of fun when you had to search old books and libraries.
Incidentally, just looked at Mason’s team in the 1979 Horse In Training. Seven of his seventeen strong string had Track Spare as their sire.
Well done. Absolutely correct. It is such a pleasure to find the right answer, isn’t it? On the rare occasion that it has happened to me I always find it a struggle to find a question that stikes the right balance between easy and hard, interesting and dull. It is the less fun part of the game. So, “no pressure then” for you to supply the next question.
OK, here goes………who was this filly/mare.
Her trainer spent most of his career training in a county which has had a resurgence, trainer wise, in recent times.
The trainer was best known for his success with his handicappers.
She was placed in a classic
She had a younger half sister who was even better but met a tragic end.
One of her best offspring won his biggest race in the same county where she was trained.
She had herself been placed in this race.By resurgence, trainer wise,, I meant the area had a resurgence in success from horses trained there as opposed to number of trainers with a licence.
A painting of the half sister who met a tragic end once graced the front of a monthly racing magazine.
The filly was Shellshock and she was trained by Eric Cousins.
Her half sister was the ill fated Irish Oaks winner Dibidale.
Shellshock was sired by Salvo and was out of Priddy Maid, whose dam Priddy Fair was the filly who Manny Mercer was killed riding at Ascot.
Shellshock was third in the 1973 1000 Guineas.
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