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    Trump or Clinton, does it really matter who rides the American horse for the next 4/8 years…

    The most innovative economy on earth, a growing population, almost unlimited physical space to facilitate that growth, thousands of miles of deep blue ocean either side, docile and developed neighbors to the north, immigrants from the south with largely Western European sensibilities. A land whose “hard done by” people are largely not inclined to manifest that resentment into religious extremism and violence, whose people unite under its flag whatever their differences. A country with massive natural resources, the frackers have the global energy game by the balls. A place where self expression and creativity are still a byword.

    Fundamentally I dont see a better setup anywhere, its a steering job imo. I am most certainly a long dollar bull.

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    A tad rose-tinted and simplistic CR but given what’s going on in the Old World a fair enough summary

    Capitalism is the least bad economic model tried thus far but the increasingly globalized free market is drifting away from ‘free’ towards a restrictive Corporatism: too much money and too much power in too few hands

    As for the next president of the US, I believe you’re right in believing it doesn’t really matter who it is or of what persuasion they are, as the President actually wields very little power or influence as an individual: the Senate and Representatives make the political decisions, thank goodness. A system akin to the Commons and Lords but significantly more democratic

    Trump is a ghastly individual whose base bluster appeals to the disaffected and impressionable but if getting the gig he’ll be neutered

    Clinton is okay and I want her to win for no other reason that I relish the thought of a Clinton, May, Merkel axis. Let the women take over and give them a chance to balls it all up less spherically than the men

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    True, nothing is that simple, Drone, but given the fundamentals of collective mentality, political system, and resources, I dont see a better setup anywhere else.

    Extensive suitcase dragging throughout “rivals” China and India over the last decade and half leave me in little doubt of that.

    Whats your take on the November election from an odds point of view? I haven’t given it too much attention up to now.

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    Cinton is currently 1.19 and Trump 6.8 with Pence and Ryan more or less rounding the book at 180 and 210

    The recent polls which show a significant swing to Clinton following news of Trump’s wandering hands are to be taken with a biggish pinch of salt IMO as there’s now likely to be a significantly increased number of ‘shy trump’ voters who wouldn’t dare admit in public that they’d still vote for Trump after these squalid revelations, particularly women

    So 1.19/6.8 are probably under/overlays and for those who use the exchanges to hedge and trade I would say that these odds represent decent opportunities to later bet-back or lay-off. I still believe Clinton’s by far the most likely winner so wouldn’t entertain a ‘value’ win single on Trump

    Trump to withdraw from the contest is probably a fair 100/1 shot, in which case Pence at 180 and Ryan at 210 make some appeal as ’emergency’ replacements; that is if I was sure that the agreed procedure in the event of a candidate’s withdrawal is for his running mate or senior member in Congress to take over. Which I’m not, and nor are the Republicans I shouldn’t wonder

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    That makes sense.

    If I was a skint West Virginian ex coal miner, references to a woman’s crotch wouldn’t put me off either.

    I watched the debate today. Thought Clinton sounded hawkish on foreign policy but don’t like Trumps stance on the Iran deal either.

    Awful choice but I genuinely think a Trump presidency would be intriguing.

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