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  • #14239
    Anonymous
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    Does anyone have any advice on the best races for Dutching? Or races that should be avoided.

    #279370
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    Avoid races in Belgium.

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    Avoid Dutching period.

    I’m not saying I never have but mainly would be if I had secured big odds AP about something and the race had cut up. I might back something else that looks the only obvius danger to cover my back.

    As far as backing 3 and 4 selections to increase you chances of winning is concerned it’s no more secure than backing 1 horse.

    You either win or lose.

    2/1 5/1 8/1……200 quid on each….find the winner…min return 660 max return 18,000 that’s 2/1 your cash.

    More likely a punter Dutching would go closer to 320 @2/1, 170 @ 5/1, 110@8/1 max return 1080…..that’s under 4/5 for your cash

    I’d rather take my chances waiting for the right 8/11 or 4/5 shot to turn up or have a short priced double at 1/6 and 4/7 and get a return of 1100 with IMO less risk……Punjabi and Mille Chief eg.

    #279588
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    A good alternative to dutching, if exacta or trifecta wagering is offered, is boxing an exacta or trifecta. For example, if you can separate 3 clear contenders but don’t know who will win and your contenders are the 2,3 and 8 horses. bet an exacta with 2 on top and 3 and 8 second, 3 on top 2 and 8 second etc. a three horse exacta box is 6 combinations, 6 one pound bets. Interestingly a trifecta is also 6 one pound bets, but all three of your horses have to finish 1,2,3 – the payoff is a bit more but often some longshot finishes third and spoils the play. An exacta can pay off well if the 3rd horse based on odds comes in first and the 2nd comes in second. This is an especially good play if you can throw out the favorite as a false favorite who is likely to finish out of the money and bet the 2nd,3rd, and 4th favorites in a large field with all the horses beyond the 4th favorite hopeless runners who are there just to fill out the race.

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    Some of the top handicap races with big fields and dubious draw advantages such as at Ascot and Goodwood are good for Dutching. These are often won by horses in the 12/1 to 14/1 range from the side that turns out to be biased. Go through some past records and these races stand out by the average winner prices. Several horses will show regained form at these type of races so go off at good odds, as the favourites get turned over.

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    Practically any race is suitable for dutching. Although there are some who are more suitable for each way betting.
    Any race with a dead 8 or 16 runner handicap is a good each way race, so too any race with a short priced fav. Any other race is good for dutching. Especially if there is a race where the best early prices add up to less than 100% (backing every runner for certain profit). Though it does not happen very often and getting on before they change their prices is a big problem.

    Big handicaps. Betting each way in a 16 runner handicap pays 1/4 the odds for finishing in the first 4 (1/4 of the field). Which is fair odds. But they usually expect us to take first 4 places in a 32 runner handicap (some bookies might have special offers). That’s a quarter for finishing in the first 1/8th of the field. So it’s far better dutching in big field handicaps than betting each way. Of course you still need to believe both / all of your selections are value, otherwise there’s no point.

    Some people believe by backing two 7/1 shots you are backing against yourself. Where as in fact you’re just taking a combined price of 3/1. 1 point on both 7/1 shots (2 in all) produces a profit of 6 points. Winning 7 + your 1 point stake back (8 returned), where as if you backed just one 3/1 shot. 2 points at 3/1 would also return 8 points and 6 point profit.

    Value Is Everything
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