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True BigG, but one of Labour’s campaign mantras (to get elected) was how honest and trustworthy they are compared to the Torries and SNP. So it is obviously going to be of particular interest when Labour proves to be the party of the self righteous hypocrite.
Value Is EverythingStarmer’s personal approval ratings are now minus 38. An impressive 49 point drop since the General Election.
Most new Prime Ministers are still enjoying a “honeymoon period” only a few months into the job.
The government and the legal profession was very quick to condemn and even imprison anyone who posted “misinformation” on social media about the murder of three children in Southport.
The government and the police assured the public the attack was “not terror related” and there was “no cause for alarm”.
It turns out the suspect was in possession of ricin and had downloaded information from Al Qaeda. He has been formally charged with terrorism offences.
I assume the government and the police will now be charged with peddling misinformation?
Perhaps the BBC’s fearless Misinformation Reporter Marianna Spring would care to investigate?
But CAS… Police are saying that ricin and Al Qaeda information about making a bomb have been found at this murderer’s home… And he’s now being held under terrorism charges because of that.
…And yet the police are still saying (according to the media) there is “no evidence” the killings of the three young girls was “terror related”.
Why having ricin and Al Qaeda information is not pretty damning evidence of what the killings were about – F KNOWS.
Value Is EverythingThe fact the details have finally been released the day before the most high profile budget in years which will dominate the news cycle, is just a coincidence. No one could possibly think it was an attempt to bury bad news.
Governments attempting to bury ‘bad news’, a tactic as old as politics itself.
According to the police, they can’t declare it a terrorist incident because that requires a motive to be present. I’m going to assume they’ve taken legal advice on that one. They can’t accuse him of something that, in law, he hasn’t done.
They also say that the ricin he is charged with producing was not found at the scene, which I assume makes it difficult to link it directly to the incident. The manual in itself does not make him a member of Al Qaeda.
Like it or not, he’s entitled to legal representation and they are duty bound to act in his best interests. Any mistakes by police/CPS will be seized upon. ‘Reasonable doubt’ is a fairly high bar.
“terrorism” “terror related” “terrorist incident” etc are presumably defined in law but to me they seem rather incoherent woolly terms as I’m sure those poor children in Southport and all around them were utterly terrified regardless of the purported motive of the attacker
Stiil, I suppose instead of being banged-up for 40 or so years for vanilla multiple murder, if deemed a ‘terrorist’ too he’ll get a whole life order: good oh
As for all this hoo-haa about election manifesto ‘pledges’ (great euphemism that) being broken, what’s new? Has any government of whatever stripe ever actually stuck to them? I doubt it…events dear boy, events
This is not a defence of our shiny, now tarnishing, new government; but really did anyone expect anything different?
Trying my hardest to remain optimistic I hope the tarnish will receive a dab of polish today: forget all the froth of the first few months, this is where the brave new world might grind into first gear. For a week anyway before shifting back into reverse when Trump is elected…eek!
“Terrorism” “terror related” “terrorist incident” etc are presumably defined in law but to me they seem rather incoherent woolly terms as I’m sure those poor children in Southport and all around them were utterly terrified regardless of the purported motive of the attacker.”
Exactly so. Three children were murdered in cold blood. Eight more were injured, some very seriously. Pardon me if I don’t give a damn about legal semantics.
The attack was bad enough. The fact the police and the government were less than straightforward with the public about the perpetrator’s identity and motive in the aftermath only served to make the matter worse.
While not supporting rioting, in the circumstances it is hardly surprising that anger boiled over.
The police declared the incident to be “not terror related” literally minutes after the incident became news. They could not possibly have known that so quickly.
I assume the suspect’s accommodation was searched that afternoon. While the ricin would have had to be sent to a lab, I am sure a search of his computer revealed the Al Qaeda stuff quite quickly.
This raises the question of why the police and the government persisted with the line it was not terror related. When did Starmer and Cooper know about the Al Qaeda connection and the ricin?
Starmer’s robotic visit to Southport and his appearing to be more angered by the “far right” rather than with the actual crime itself is a large part of the reason for his dismal poll ratings now.
tbh I can see why the police and government held on to the information for a while – until the riots ended. So as not to fuel those riots. However, to wait this long without telling the public seems counter-productive. It just means the public will find it even more difficult to believe both police and government if ever a similar situation takes place.
Value Is EverythingIf the police ever do treat the awful killings of the three girls as “terrorism”; do any of those who’ve gone to prison for “misinformation” have any cause for appeal?
Value Is EverythingIt could be argued the protests were made worse and turned into riots because people suspected the authorities were withholding information.
The suggestion that the incident was terror related and committed by someone who had been radicalised online was dismissed at the time as “misinformation”. It does not quite look like misinformation now.
If anyone is in prison for having tweeted such a suggestion, they would appear to have a good case that their conviction is unsafe.
Starmer’s government and its dwindling group of supporters and apologists don’t seem to understand the depth of public anger about this case.
Labour said before election ….
pro business …. pro growth …. we will make UK one of the fastest growing economies of the G7 group.
If this budget achieves the above it will be a miracle and the OBR doesn’t believe in Santa or the £22 billion black hole.
Labour are once again having trouble defining it’s policies but of course we have been there before.
What is a woman?
Who is a working person?
NO national insurance increases!
and before people leap to defend the NI increase Labour made NO distinction when making the pledge.
Also seen comments saying ‘good riddance’ to those leaving but remember the tax they pay has to be recovered to make up the shortfall which will occur.
good luck to allA budget for the public sector from a Party of the public sector.
But, at what price to the country, business, workers, jobs, inflation, interest rates and future economic growth?The Party for business and growth ‘they’ told ‘us’. You didnt fool me, Starmer and Rachel Thieves. I knew, as soon as Sunak fired the starting gun on GE 2024.
Same old Labour (Defo NOT Blair’s New Labour), tax and spend with no strings attached (for the public sector) or changes to working practices.
As Hunt said they could’ve gone after, in a big way, Welfare reform. Or, how about NHS Reform? Mr Streeting you promised reform, instead you bunged ’em unprecedented levels of £bns, yep, with no strings attached.
And the reality of the NHS ‘bung’? A large proportion of it will be used to fund the pay increases (as highlighted by a NHS trust manager on late-night tv last night).Time to reflect today, for the markets. Yep, you’ve guessed it, government bond yields at their highest this year. So what, i hear the anti-capitalist Left cry.
Well, at best it will delay or restrict any interest rate reductions. At worst, minimum wage rises and higher borrowing plus increased employer NI conts will feed thru to higher prices, job losses, small business closures, bankruptcies and possibly an uptick in, both, inflation and interest rates.No improvements to growth are predicted by the OBR, the IFS and Labour’s friends at the Left wing Resolution Foundation.
A good old Labour tax and spend budget, with a dose of class politics, note the disgusting ‘attack’ on farmers, to wreck the economy and ultimately, it may well prove their downfall in a few years.
The benchmark ten year gilt rate was being offered this afternoon at 4.47% yield, a full percentage point higher than the Truss/Kwarteng spike which peaked at 3.47%.
Their budget was reported at the time by the Financial Times, BBC and establishment commentators as having pushed up mortgage interest rates and that it had “crashed the economy”.
Reeves herself said it was “disastrous” and “No other government is sabotaging their own country’s economic credibility like this Tory government. Borrowing costs up. Growth down.”
Which is precisely what the OBR predicts will happen following her budget!
But the FT, the BBC and the usual suspects have not had a meltdown this time, despite the economy being in an even worse place and with bleaker prospects.
No country ever taxed its way to prosperity. Why would anyone young and ambitious stay here, faced by a prospect of ever rising taxes but nothing to show for it? Our infrastructure continues to crumble after decades of mismanagement by both failed establishment parties.
Plenty are already leaving. I don’t blame them. But we can ill afford it, especially with the birth rate now at 1.44, well below the necessary replacement figure of 2.1. We are faced with an ageing population with fewer and fewer young working people. It is a ticking time bomb but neither political party has anything to say about it, both of them merely repositories of every failed political ideology.
The demographic time bomb is a serious problem but what incentive is there to have kids? Many people can barely afford to look after themselves, never mind the necessary children required to sustain the 2.1 rate. Then you look at the state of the world in general, increasingly run by absolute maniacs plus the inevitable march of climate change, I could go on. Even if you could afford it, why the hell would you bring a child into the world as it is and where it appears to be going? It’s an increasing problem across the developed world, perhaps most notably in Japan.
So how do you try to fix the issue? Incentivise having children with benefits? Bring working age people in from abroad? Try suggesting either of those and see how far you get. Of course we used to have a ready supply of the latter but we decided to shut that particular tap off.
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