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    “Maybe Labour, even though they say they will contest every seat, have deliberately chosen someone that isn’t a threat to the Green candidate.”

    Why is Labour helping out the Greens in a Labour held seat? It might make some tactical sense if it was a by-election in a seat Labour never did well in and had no chance of winning. But Labour has held the seat for years (it was Gerald Kaufman’s constituency).

    The opinion polls show Labour could have won the seat easily if Burnham had been permitted to stand. Instead Starmer put his own interests ahead of his party and has handed Reform the chance of an electoral and propaganda victory.

    If Reform wins, I don’t see how Starmer can continue. His enemies within Labour will be emboldened by the charge he has stupidly lost a by-election to his main opponents when he should have won.

    The Greens winning would be marginally less damaging but it still wouldn’t look good for him.

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    I only said ‘maybe’. It looks as if they’ve put up a good candidate so I misjudged it. I don’t think Keir is putting his best interests before that of the party. Burnham said he would do a full term as mayor if he was re elected and is putting personal ambition before party loyalty and Keir can see that. I can’t stand the man. I also can’t stand that new Green leader ( used to love Lucas;pure class and so eloquent). I don’t understand why he’s so popular. Will listen to the interview with him on TRIP Leading to see what all the fuss is about. Imo he needs to smarten himself up and get his teeth fixed ( or am I being bitchy…probably am?)

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    If I lived in Manchester and had voted in Burnham as mayor I’d expect him to serve the allotted full term that the electorate were kind enough to grant him.

    To jump ship at the chance of hauling himself further up the political greasy pole would annoy me, and I suspect a significant number of those who voted him in feel the same. Therefore, I go against the general received wisdom that had Burnham been allowed to stand in the by-election the result would be a shoo-in for Labour.

    I found it disappointing – though hardly surprising – that he attempted to stand, and my reaction was one of hoping he got stuffed and the unnecessary, costly election for a new mayor went to Reform. Naked ambition one second, out into the long grass with tail between legs the next.

    I haven’t formulated a firm opinion on Polanski yet, though superficially I don’t really warm to him. Some have asked why he didn’t put himself forward for the by-election. I’d like to think it’s because being an elected member of the London Assembly he didn’t think it right to abandon that ship. If so, the warmth increases a notch or two.

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    I do live in Greater Manchester and yes voted for Andy Burnham in the latest Mayor’s election.

    The New Statesman explains why Andy would have made a better PM than Keir

    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2025/09/exclusive-andy-burnhams-plan-for-britain

    You've got to accentuate the positive.
    Eliminate the negative.
    Latch on to the affirmative.
    Don't mess with mister in between.

    #1753196
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    Drone. If you listen to TRIP Leading interview with Polanski he explains why he wants to get a seat in London. Having just listened to it I agree with how they summed it up afterwards. In that, like Alastair and Rory, I really warmed to him in the first half of the interview in which he talked about his background and beliefs. However, in the second half in which he was grilled about Green Party plans for the economy it didn’t really add up ( although I must admit to not understanding economics at all). And, as Alastair pointed out, there is a real danger that a Green vote splitting the Labour vote is going to hand a lot of seats to Reform. I don’t think that a lot of people voting Green really understand what they stand for in much the same way as Corbyn attracted young voters by promising to do away with tuition fees. I think what has made him popular is the fact that he openly says that the situation in Gaza is genocide. Oh and he mentioned his teeth right at the start of the interview, which made me feel really bad.

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