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- April 24, 2023 at 13:20 #1645216
Concorde running today at Windsor in a handicap at long odds on
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April 24, 2023 at 13:43 #1645223Pontefract not Windsor…

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April 24, 2023 at 14:47 #1645229Curtis just made sure he is ridden out to the line. Won by 8-10 lengths and that’s how it should be done.
April 24, 2023 at 14:50 #1645232Winning any handicap by eight-to-ten lengths is definitely NOT how it should be done.
First priority is to win, for sure, but second is to win by not too far or too obviously easily.
Lester Piggott used to hold onto a horse in behind rivals until the last 100 yards and then shake them up to quicken alongside and pull half a length clear on the line.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"April 24, 2023 at 15:04 #1645234Will probably go up a stone for his last two runs and picked around five grand in the process.
Hope they had a good bet on it.
April 24, 2023 at 16:18 #1645243Ian, you’re not fooling anyone, if you win hard held by a length or driven out by ten. The raise would be similar in both cases.
April 24, 2023 at 18:08 #1645246“If you win hard held by a length or driven out by ten. The raise would be similar in both cases”.
I’d be interested to see if any analysis has been done on that. If what you say is correct (and it may very well be) then why do the riders persist in doing it?
April 24, 2023 at 18:25 #1645249“First priority is to win, for sure, but second is to win by not too far or too obviously easily.”
Usually yes – but I expect Curtis was mindful about what happened last time and how Cosgrave was hammered on social media. There was no way he was going to win being cute about it.
April 24, 2023 at 18:38 #1645252“Ian, you’re not fooling anyone, if you win hard held by a length or driven out by ten. The raise would be similar in both cases.”
ERL, read my post again – Piggott had a third way: he’d wait and wait until the last 100 yards, so he had to roust the horse to go from a few lengths down to getting up by half a length or even a neck.
I agree winning hard held fools no one, but there are other ways to make it look harder work than it was.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"April 24, 2023 at 18:49 #1645255“then why do the riders persist in doing it?”
So as not to subject the horse to a harder race than is necessary.
April 24, 2023 at 19:56 #1645269Ian, I agree with you about Piggott and I have no proper example right now to prove what I’m trying to say, but I’m sure we’ll find a few races during the turf season.
Anyway, just consider how high the opening marks of horses from the bigger stables (Stoute, Gosden, Balding, Appleby etc) are, compared to the ones from smaller stables. I do think that handicappers have their own opinion and it’s not too easy to fool them. - AuthorPosts
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