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  • #367118
    Avatar photoTheBluesBrother
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    I just had a look at the Group 1 Phoenix Stakes to be run on Sunday.
    Looking at my speed figures it is just a 2 horse race between

    Power

    the winner (best Speed figure over 6f) and

    Frederick Engels

    .
    As there are not too many horses that achieve speed figures in the

    90+

    category, I cannot see Richard Hannon pinching this race with

    Lilbourne Lad

    as his best rating is only

    75

    .

    Complete form and speed ratings:

    Keeneland Phoenix Stakes (Group 1) (Entire Colts & Fillies) (2yo) 6f

    Frederick Engels 14-Jun-11 Asc 5Gd C12yL 28K

    93

    Power 14-Jun-11 Asc 6Gd C12yG2 48K

    92

    Power 21-May-11 Cur 5GF 2yL 26K

    87

    Frederick Engels 04-Jun-11 Mus 5GF C22y 12K

    87

    Tough As Nails 21-May-11 Cur 5GF 2yL 26K

    87

    Gatepost 14-Jun-11 Asc 6Gd C12yG2 48K

    86

    Boris Grigoriev 17-Jul-11 Cur 6Y/Sft 2yG3 29K

    82

    After 17-Jul-11 Cur 6Y/Sft 2yG3 29K

    81

    Gatepost 11-May-11 Yor 5Gd C32yNv 7K

    79

    Somasach 25-Jun-11 Cur 6Y/Sft 2yG3 29K

    76

    Lilbourne Lad 06-Jun-11 Naa 6GF 2yL 33K

    75

    Boris Grigoriev 26-Jul-11 Goo 5Gd C12yG3 22K

    74

    Lilbourne Lad 14-May-11 Nmk 6GF C42yNv 4K

    73

    Reply 22-May-11 Cur 6Gd 2y 10K

    73

    Among Equals 31-Jul-11 Cor 6GF 2y 8K

    73

    Somasach 01-Jun-11 Tip 5GF 2y 7K

    73

    Lilbourne Lad 26-Jun-11 Cur 6Gd 2yG2 49K

    70

    Gatepost 21-Apr-11 Fol 5GF C52yMd 3K

    70

    Frederick Engels 28-May-11 Hay 5GF C52yMd 3K

    68

    Tough As Nails 26-Jun-11 Cur 6Gd 2yG2 49K

    68

    Frederick Engels 07-Jul-11 Nmk 6Gd C12yG2 34K

    66

    Tough As Nails 14-Apr-11 Tip 5Y/Sft 2y 7K

    65

    Parish Hall 10-Apr-11 Leo 6GF 2y 10K

    65

    La Collina 11-Jun-11 Lim 7Gd 2y 7K

    65

    Reply 23-Apr-11 Cor 5Gd 2y 11K

    63

    Tough As Nails 20-Mar-11 Cur 5Sft 2y 10K

    63

    Somasach 15-Jun-11 Asc 5Gd C12yG2 42K

    61

    Power 02-May-11 Cur 6GF 2y 10K

    60

    Homecoming Queen 28-May-11 Nav 6GF 2y 9K

    60

    Lilbourne Lad 16-Apr-11 Don 5GF C42yMd 3K

    56

    Frederick Engels 13-May-11 Ham 5Gd C52yMd 3K

    55

    Boris Grigoriev 28-Apr-11 Tip 5GF 2y 7K

    54

    After 01-Jun-11 Tip 5GF 2y 7K

    54

    Parish Hall 21-Jul-11 Leo 7Sft 2yG3 26K

    52

    Homecoming Queen 31-Jul-11 Cor 6GF 2y 8K

    48

    After 21-May-11 Cur 6GF 2y 10K

    47

    Among Equals 13-May-11 Cor 6Y/Sft 2y 8K

    46

    Boris Grigoriev 14-Apr-11 Tip 5Y/Sft 2y 7K

    41

    Among Equals 04-Jul-11 Ros 7GF 2y 6K

    40

    After 26-Jun-11 Cur 6Gd 2y 10K

    39

    Homecoming Queen 30-Apr-11 Dun 5St 2y 7K

    39

    Homecoming Queen 29-Jun-11 Fai 6Gd 2y 7K

    38

    Boris Grigoriev 15-May-11 Nav 6GF 2y 11K

    37

    Qatar’s Pearl 06-Jul-11 Naa 6Gd 2y 8K

    28

    La Collina 14-Jul-11 Leo 7Gd 2yG3 26K

    25

    Somasach 14-Jul-11 Leo 7Gd 2yG3 26K

    15

    Homecoming Queen 06-Jun-11 Naa 6GF 2yL 37K

    4

    #367127
    Avatar photodrsumo
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    i think i would have to say i like frederick engles finishing pace,he looks a class act and as for the best so far i would go for harbour watch a very intresting horse

    #367349
    darren83
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    Intresting 2yo race at Newmarket today looks a match between
    Discourse and Desert Gazelle

    Any thoughts on 2yo races tomorrow as well in Ireland i think Rubina will run a big race but i think Remember Alexandra will win

    Any thoughts on Kinglet i thought he was impressive last night

    #367375
    Avatar photoTheBluesBrother
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    Intresting 2yo race at Newmarket today looks a match between
    Discourse and Desert Gazelle

    ILLAUNGLASS

    last 2 speed figures of

    80 and 81

    in my book make her the form horse in the race, any horse that can beat her today would have to be a group horse in the making.
    The Favourite

    DISCOURSE

    only speed figure is

    51

    .

    Update: Discourse was very impressive and using 0.00 going correction earnt a new Speed figure of

    85

    #367507
    darren83
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    What you guys think of Maybe today and also La Collina 2nd behind Maybe came out and beat the colts

    Any thoughts on Was in the maiden very taking peformance by her

    #367767
    darren83
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    Born To Sea will debut next month

    Any thoughts on the win by Daddy Long Legs as well.

    #368011
    Avatar photoEmmyK
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    Currently absolutely in love with Pimpernel. Really looking forwards to her next season.

    #368017
    darren83
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    Top Offer was a very impressive debut winner being quoted of 20/1 for 2000 guineas

    Fencing won well yesterday which boost the horse that beat him on debut the Haggas horse.

    Astrolgy was a nice winner in Ireland as well

    Was not impressed by Harvard NVale

    What you guys think of 2yo races in the last week.

    #368023
    stilvi
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    Top Offer was a very impressive debut winner being quoted of 20/1 for 2000 guineas

    Fencing won well yesterday which boost the horse that beat him on debut the Haggas horse.

    Astrolgy was a nice winner in Ireland as well

    Was not impressed by Harvard NVale

    What you guys think of 2yo races in the last week.

    Top Offer was 25/1 – not sure if he is now. He was impressive but if you are thinking of backing him you have to consider what he beat, the fact he is owned by someone who has a massive string and Charlton’s record of getting horses to Classics let alone winning and he is not a trainer who traditionally strikes form early in a season. Against that Harbour Watch was 14/1 after he had won three races. Top Offer could get beat next time and he will be a million.

    Harvard N Vale looked promising under Baker first time but a difficult ride under Murtagh. The market indicated that the opposition wasn’t that strong and I would suspect Attenborough is better or at least more straightforward.

    #368264
    darren83
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    The Acomb tomorrow also some 2yos in the nunthorpe as well i hope Requinto wins that on friday.Any thoughts on 2yos racing at York this week

    #368277
    Avatar photoTheBluesBrother
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    The Acomb tomorrow also some 2yos in the nunthorpe as well i hope Requinto wins that on friday.Any thoughts on 2yos racing at York this week

    Richard Hannon has

    Crown Dependency

    running in the 2.00 York Thursday, this is the 2yo I have been waiting to run again as I think he is a steering job.
    I liked John Francome’s paddock statement about

    Crown Dependency

    "he’s built like a 4yo old".
    So good do I think this 2yo old is, that even if he ran against Frederick Engels on Friday I fancy him to turn him over :D

    As for

    Requinto

    winning the Nunthorpe I cannot see any of the 2yo’s finishing in the frame, let alone finish in front of

    Hoof it

    :shock:

    #368624
    darren83
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    Any thoughts on 2yos you seen this week.

    Rugged Cross another winner from the maiden that Jungle Beat won by 3LS.Any news on Jungle Beat

    Also big 2yo race tomorrow in Ireland David Livingston already got 25/1 to win derby. is in action looks between him and Riveria Poet.

    #368692
    stilvi
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    Two significant boosts for Harbour Watch. Top Offer now a ludicrous price – it just shows how keen people are to swallow hype. It wouldn’t look quite so bad if Harbour Watch’s form didn’t look so solid.

    Athens appeared to make a promising start in a race where experience was a telling factor.

    #368704
    Avatar photoGhost of Rob V
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    Looking forward to see Eastern Sun in the 2:45 at Sandown today. Loved the manner of his debut win and I’ll be backing him to make it 2 out of 2.

    #369129
    darren83
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    Any thoughts on Dragon Pulse who big 2yo race in Ireland at weekend

    And any news on Jungle Beat as another horse from his maiden won 8.20 at Kempton tonight.And do you guys think he be a miler or derby horse.As i think he be a top class colt

    And Questing in my opinion the best 2yo filly Gosden has got is racing at Goodwood this saturday

    #369369
    darren83
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    Any thoughts on Maybe she should win then be confirmed as winter fav for 1000 guineas.

    Any earl thoughts on National stakes and any horses you see going for race to.

    #369448
    stilvi
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    Not very much not to like about Maybe although having been impressive on four occasions it is a bit of mystery why she was pushed at Leopardstown. However, it is all very well saying if the Guineas was in a couple of weeks she would be odds on, but we all know it isn’t and that is why Ladbrokes are dangling a not very appetising carrot. She might turn out to be just a very good two-year-old. Had I taken the price I would be concerned that it seems likely that she will run again this season. Assuming she is successful that would mean victory in the Classic being a seventh straight win – I can’t remember a similar profile in recent year years. Perhaps some historians on here could dig something up. On form she is closely matched with Best Terms and although beaten by both Fire Lily could have the scope to improve next year and she is a 33/1 shot. There is also still time for a less exposed filly to stake a claim.

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