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- October 20, 2019 at 01:32 #1470957
Final Week Scores
2539 Baynet 1105, 404, 1030
2539 Pants 1105, 404, 1030
2135 Red Rum 1105, 1030
2030 Jackh 2030 (nap)
1834 Botchy 804 (nap), 1030
1509 BigG 1105, 404
1509 Cormack 1105, 404
1509 Raymo 1105, 404
1434 FinalFurlong 404, 1030
1434 Gingertipster 404, 1030
1434 Greenasgrass 404, 1030
1105 Chestnut 1105
1105 Triptych 1105
1030 Kilmurry 1030
1030 Nefertiti 1030
1030 Silent Assassins 1030
404 Aaronizneez 404
404 Coops 404
404 Goodfellow 404
404 MarkTT 404
404 Middle Of March 404
404 Mtoto 404
404 Nathan Hughes 404
404 TheKryptonFactor 404Value Is EverythingOctober 20, 2019 at 01:37 #14709582019 TRF FLAT 10 TO FOLLOW COMPETITION LEADERBOARD:
WINNER: MTOTO 24,883 – 208, 207, 171, 204, 416, 202, 409, 821, 1075, 206, 1090, 1030, 430, 1045, 2020 (nap), 1024, 440, 1135, 1015, 2016 (nap), 421, 1024, 1030, 1008, 1150, 407, 1608 (nap), 409, 1053, 402, 803 (nap), 404
SECOND: Gingertipster 24,670 – 210, 202, 203, 405, 204, 1015, 404 (nap), 416, 200, 809 (nap), 1009, 411, 1075, 406 (nap), 410, 1030, 1045, 1020, 417, 2024 (nap), 1135, 1016, 1024, 2030 (nap), 1008, 808, 409, 1053, 402, 1033, 403, 404, 1030
THIRD: Baynet 23,648 – 171, 405, 1015, 404 (nap), 416, 809 (nap), 1009, 420, 411, 406 (nap), 410, 1030, 1020, 417, 2024 (nap), 1135, 1016, 1024, 2030 (nap), 1008, 808, 409, 1053, 402, 1033, 421, 403, 1105, 404, 1030
FOURTH: Red Rum 22,263 – 208, 405, 327, 404 (nap), 202, 809 (nap), 1009, 420, 260, 406 (nap), 1090, 410, 430, 417, 2024 (nap), 1015, 174, 1016, 421, 2030 (nap), 1008, 1150, 407, 808, 1053, 200, 1033, 168, 421, 403, 1105, 1030
FIFTH: Botchy 22,015 – 210, 260, 405, 816 (nap), 1009, 235, 260, 460, 410, 167, 2030 (nap), 430, 1020, 417, 230, 1015, 347, 1016, 2024 (nap), 206, 210, 1150, 808, 809 (nap), 802 (nap), 1033, 1360, 205, 403, 434, 804 (nap), 1030
SIXTH: Greenasgrass 21,817 – 1165, 405, 1015, 416, 222, 402 (nap), 1009, 338, 411, 1075, 2090 (nap), 410, 1030, 1045, 417, 230, 168, 1016, 821 (nap), 1024, 225, 807 (nap), 808, 409, 402, 1033, 1360, 227, 403, 404, 1030
SEVENTH: Pants 20,929 – 203, 171, 405, 204, 327, 416, 200, 1009, 460, 410, 1030, 2020 (nap), 417, 1135, 2016 (nap), 1024, 1008, 206, 1608 (nap), 409, 1053, 402, 1033, 421, 803 (nap), 1105, 404, 1030
EIGHTH: Jackh 20,212 – 410 (nap), 805 (nap), 204, 409, 2009 (nap), 460, 1075, 206, 810 (nap), 1045, 1040, 1020, 817 (nap), 1024, 1016, 1030, 206, 808, 1100, 2033 (nap), 172, 403, 2030 (nap)
NINETH: BigG 18,347 – 203, 1165, 204, 416, 200, 409, 420, 1075, 206, 1030, 1045, 1020, 1024, 1135, 1016, 1024, 1030, 1008, 808, 409, 1053, 402, 421, 403, 1105, 404
TENTH: Middle Of March 18,164 – 203, 404 (nap) 416, 415, 200, 809 (nap), 1075, 406 (nap), 1030, 1045, 1020, 2024 (nap), 1016, 1054, 1024, 209, 2030 (nap), 402, 403, 404
Cormack 17,606 – 1165, 1015, 204, 416, 200, 409, 420, 260, 411, 206, 1030, 430, 1020, 1024, 1015, 1016, 1024, 209, 1030, 1150, 808, 409, 402, 421, 403, 1105, 404
Nefertiti 17,466 – 1165, 1220, 405, 1015, 204, 200, 409, 1009, 875, 411, 1075, 206, 410, 326, 1045, 417, 1024, 1135, 209, 1030, 1100, 341, 1033, 172, 1030
Nathan Hughes 17,203 – 204, 416, 200, 409, 417, 412, 206, 1030, 1040, 1020, 1024, 1016,1024, 1030, 1008, 423 (nap), 1150, 808, 409, 1053, 423 (nap), 402, 1100, 172, 403, 404
Raymo 16,964 – 260, 188, 416, 420, 1075, 1030, 1240, 1045, 1040, 248, 1020, 418, 1016, 1024, 1066, 808, 409, 402, 235, 1100, 421, 172, 403, 1105, 404
Kilmurry 16,108 – 405, 204, 2015 (nap), 1009, 821, 260, 460, 811 (nap), 1075, 410, 430, 1045, 1040, 417, 1015, 206, 1150, 1100, 1033, 172, 1030
Silent Assassins 15,797 – 1165, 405, 1015, 1009, 460, 411, 410, 830 (nap), 1040, 417, 1135, 2015 (nap), 2150 (nap), 1100, 1033, 172, 1030
FinalFurlong 14,420 – 220, 1015, 416, 424, 260, 460, 411, 1030, 430, 409 (nap), 1015, 1016, 1024, 206, 1150, 808, 409, 402, 1033, 225, 403, 220, 404, 1030
Goodfellow 14,019 – 204, 204, 416, 415, 409, 260, 206, 1030, 430, 1024, 1135, 230, 1015, 1054, 1024, 1030, 1150, 409, 208, 402, 1360, 404
John Gooch 12,210 – 202, 1165, 1015, 327, 204, 409, 260, 411, 206, 430, 1024, 1135, 1015, 1016, 1030, 1150, 808, 403
Triptych 11,864 – 193, 1165, 171, 204, 409, 420, 444, 1075, 206, 1045, 1020, 1016, 209, 427, 808, 1123, 421, 403, 1105
Coops 10,058 – 198, 327, 204, 416, 409, 206, 1030, 228, 209, 1024, 2135 (nap), 1024, 1030, 409, 402, 403, 404
Jonibake 8,936 – 203, 1015, 332, 204, 200, 409, 411, 206, 1020, 1024, 1016, 209, 1030, 223, 808, 223, 403
Aaronizneez 8,446 – 171, 204, 1015, 416, 411, 1075, 1030, 1045, 840 (nap), 1024, 409, 402, 404
Venture to Cognac 6,891 – 214, 1330, 260, 430, 455, 210, 248, 1135, 1015, 209, 1150, 235
MarkTT 5,491 – 404 (nap), 875, 327, 416, 200, 1030, 1024, 409, 402, 404
TheKryptonFactor 5,193 – 218, 416, 1030, 1024, 209, 244, 409, 402, 410, 207, 220, 404
Chestnut 4,445 – 327, 420, 1135, 421, 209, 407, 421, 1105Up to date 10 To Follow Scoring Horses in alphabetical order (not including any nap/star):
2724 Advertise 1240, 418, 1066
444 Al Hilalee 444
2890 Battaash 417, 412, 1008, 1053
440 Beat The Bank 440
2120 Blue Point 1075, 1045
204 Broome 204
403 Calyx 203, 200
875 Castle Lady 875
641 City Light 225, 416
1550 Circus Maximus 427, 1123
210 Constantinople 210
209 Cross Counter 209
2328 Crystal Ocean 208, 202, 1090, 421, 407
1999 Defoe 214, 1330, 455
172 East 172
3447 Enable 1020, 1016, 1008, 403
1590 Fairyland 230, 1360
644 Flag Of Honour 220, 424
1183 Fleeting 235, 167, 347, 434
542 Goddess 174, 200, 168
196 Happen 196
2762 Hermosa 1220, 875, 326, 341
2312 Iridessa 1040, 1100, 172
2855 Japan 260, 430, 1015, 1150
1946 Kew Gardens 420, 421, 1105
205 King Of Comedy 205
419 Latrobe 210, 209
1677 Laurens 415, 1054, 208
327 Lah Ti Dar 327
228 Limato 228
446 Line Of Duty 223, 223
260 Mabs Cross 260
666 Madhmoon 460, 206
4514 Magical 210, 405, 1009, 410, 417, 1033, 1030
1165 Magna Grecia 1165
483 Norway 248, 235
669 Olmedo 218, 244, 207
1628 Persian King 202, 1015, 411
669 Pink Dogwood 338, 163, 168
209 Polydream 209
198 Pretty Baby 198
364 Qabala 193, 171
207 Sharjah Bridge 207
821 Siyarafina 821
440 Slalom 440
630 Sottsass 410, 220
674 Southern France 222, 225, 227
3685 Stradivarius 416, 1030, 1024, 409, 402, 404
1135 Ten Sovereigns 1135
2873 Too Darn Hot 204, 409, 206, 1024, 1030Please check your own scores and let me know if believing I’ve made a mistake.

Congratulations to MTOTO88 who wins the TRF Flat 10 To Follow Competition!
Value Is EverythingOctober 20, 2019 at 02:07 #1470960Only a 5/4 Group 3 winner between Mtoto and myself after a Magical ending.
Baynet made up ground with both Magical and the Long Distance 1 – 2 Kew Gardens and Stradivarius.Value Is EverythingOctober 20, 2019 at 02:39 #1470962Well done Mtoto, that was a gargantuan fight between you and The Ginger One, well done for
coming out on top
Thouraghly enjoyed it Ginger, it looked like a whole lot of work to me, but if you fancy
taking it into a 2nd year, I’m more than up for it
October 20, 2019 at 10:24 #1470969Well done to those who finished on the podium. Baynet, Gingertipster & Mtoto88 our first winner. Give it a good try and proud to finish 4th myself and up for it next year.
I know I’ve said this before but well done in organising this Ginger

You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.October 20, 2019 at 22:14 #1471847Well done Mtoto and unlucky Ginge, was very close run thing
Great comp, thanks for running itGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
October 20, 2019 at 23:23 #1471893Congratulations for winning a very difficult competition Mtoto and also to Ginger who almost got to keep his Timeform book that was a fantastic contest for the title reminiscent of Enable and Crystal Ocean.

Like Graham I really hope you find the time to do this again next year and hope I’m lucky enough to chose a Superstar like Magical for my stable what a star performer she turned out to be.
Thanks for taking the time to put all this together Ginger it was really enjoyable.
Enjoy your prize Mtoto.
Jac
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...October 20, 2019 at 23:49 #1472183Well done Mtoto.
Thanks for sorting this comp Ginge. Cracking effort
October 21, 2019 at 01:06 #1472188Thanks BigG, RR, Nat, Jac and MOM.
The Timeform Racehorses Of 2919 is out middle to late March if I remember rightly, so Mtoto won’t be getting his prize for a while.Value Is EverythingOctober 21, 2019 at 07:08 #1472191That’s a long wait Ginge.
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...October 21, 2019 at 11:56 #1472217Well done MTOTO great score and thanks Ginger for a really well organised and fun comp.
October 21, 2019 at 13:17 #1472221Hello to everyone
I echo the sentiments expressed by all of you about the winning entries and scores.
Also to Gingertipster for all his hard work making it all work.
This kind of Horses To Follow Competition was the reason for me joining theracingforum,
but I have found other avenues to become involved in and have over the summer really enjoyed
all the different options available.Looking forward to the coming National Hunt Season and are at the moment doing a lot of
head scratching about my Ten To Follow entry, but have to say the taking part is more enjoyable
as you get to know other competitors and all being well will be taking part in another Flat Season
next year.Once again Many Thanks
October 21, 2019 at 14:11 #1472226Yes i’ll echo what everyone else has said and thank You GT for running this competition
October 21, 2019 at 17:25 #1472248Well done Mtoto, grand stuff.
Thanks to GT for a mammoth effort in scoring and updating frequently.
Looking forward to next year.
October 21, 2019 at 20:02 #1472264WOW, that was a tight finish there GT. Luckily I played the part of Kew Gardens to your Stradivarius in this Long Distance Comp. Thanks for everyone’s warm congratulations. I thoroughly enjoyed this competition and really enjoyed the format. Ginge many thanks firstly for not winning your own comp
but also for your organisation and managing the comp through-out the season. The competition was well thought out and obviously well recieved by reading the comments and appreciation above. Please do not be offended but I honestly would not make appropriate use of Timeform Racehorses 2019 and I would be honoured if you would keep it for yourself to study and enjoy. I know from following you for a number of years that you treasure these racing “bibles” and I am sure that the additional knowledge that you acquire from reading TR2019 will result in posting more than a few tasty winners. Good luck to everyone looking forward to taking part again next year. Apologies but I can’t resist posting Ginge’s favourite emoji
October 21, 2019 at 20:56 #1472266Thanks Jac, Green’, John, Baynet.
Please stay out of my way Mr Cormack.Really enjoyed doing this competition, not a chore at all.
There are some changes I’ll probably be making for 2020:
“NB” Next Best (Replacing Your Star/Nap horse):
Along with a Star/Nap (S/N), TRFers should nominate a Next Best (NB) BEFORE the 2000 Guineas. Then IF (only “if”) your S/N has what turns out to be its final start of the season prior to October 1st… or choosing to substitute out your original S/N before Oct 1st… Any Group points SUBSEQUENTLY scored by your NB are automatically DOUBLED from the day after your S/N’s final start… OR Your NB’s Group points are DOUBLED from the day after substitution if that substitution happens before the end of your S/N’s season (and before Oct 1st).
Don’t worry if it sounds complicated. This rule effectively means Star/Naps are transferred over to your Next Best automatically at the sad death or retirement or injury or from the time you yourself choose to substitute out your original S/N. There will be NO NEED for TRFers to ask for their Next Best’s double Group points to take effect, it’ll all be done automatically. All TRFers will need to do themselves is nominate a Next Best at the start of the competition.Competition Start:
Not sure about the running start we had in 2019. Might be best with a definite start date for the Flat Ten To Follow on exact same date as the Jumps comp’ finishes. Scoring races starting with the first European Group race on 2000 Guineas day. TRFers may enter after that time/date but races run prior to entry will not count towards his/her totals and your Star/Nap and Next Best can’t have run since the start of 2000 Guineas day. TRFers may change up to three horses in their list prior to the 2000 Guineas.Group Points:
Points are scored in all Group races in Britain, Ireland and France, plus winners ONLY of Group/Grade 1 races elsewhere. However, all horses must start the season in the yard of a European based trainer.
So Ghaiyyath’s German Group 1 would’ve scored as well as Old Persian’s USA victory… And if a European horse subsequently gets transferred over to be trained in USA it still counts towards totals if winning in Grade 1 company. (No horses trained in non-European countries from the start of the season are allowed).Group points other than winners of Group 1’s are upped by a quarter from what they were in 2019.
Group 1:
Colts & Open races…..1st 1000 points, 2nd 500, 3rd 250 instead of (in 2019) 1000, 400 and 200.
Fillies & Mares races….1st 800 points, 2nd 400, 3rd 200 instead of 800, 320 and 160.Group 2:
Colts & Open races…..1st 500, 2nd 250 instead of 400 and 200.
Fillies & Mares races..1st 400, 2nd 200 instead of 320 and 160.Group 3:
Colts & Open races…..1st 250 instead of 200.
Fillies & Mares races..1st 200 instead of 160.Betting Bonus Points:
Betting Bonus Points winners upped by X 10. So instead of Group 1’s getting odds X30, Group 2’s X 20 and Group 3’s X 10… It’ll be odds X 40, X 30 and X 20. With Seconds getting a quarter (instead of a fifth) of the winner’s Betting Bonus Points. Thirds get half of Second’s.So a 5/1 Open Group 1 winner still gets 1000 Group points and then 40 X 5 = 200 Betting Bonus points = 1200 (instead of 1060 in 2019).
5/1 in an Open Group 1 second place gets 500 Group points and then 200 ‘/, 4 = 50 Betting Bonus for a total of 550 (instead of 430 in 2019).
5/1 in an Open Group 1 third gets 250 Group points and then 50 ‘/, 2 = 25 for a total of 275 (instead of 215 in 2019).
Maximum number of points for one race are:
100/1+ Open Group 1 winner gets 1000 Group points + 4000 Betting Bonus for a total of 5000 (instead of 4000 in 2019).
100/1+ Open Group 1 second gets a total of 1500 (upped by 500) with a 100/1 third 750 (upped by 250).
etc etcAm going to have a break as tbh don’t feel like doing anything for TRF at the moment (nothing to do with any TRFers). Doubt I’ll be able to stay away and probably be back for 2020. If not; if someone else wants to take over please feel free.
Mtoto can message me with his address I’ll send a Racehorses Of 2019 immediately it’s published.
Again, thanks for all your kind comments.

Mark (Ginge)
Value Is EverythingOctober 21, 2019 at 21:09 #1472267LOL.
Thanks Mtoto. I blame the person who advised me to have Star/Naps in the comp’!!!
Have you ever come across any Racehorses Of annuals?
Not a matter of taking my Racehorses Of 2019; can just order two.
Are you sure you don’t want the prize?
Was hoping I’d make you another Timeform addict.
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