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    Avatar photoTheKryptonFactor
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    40/1 still available about Abolitionist with Bet365. Was my main fancy for this last year and I’ve gone in again now he’s confirmed his wellbeing after a tendon injury. I suspect they could take on the Pertemps prior to Aintree.

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    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Krypton, I’d say he’s a cert to go Pertemps now, that was a smashing performance today.

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    Avatar photoLemons68
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    I was in the same camp last year Krypton. I’ve bet him 50-1 ew and 40-1 ew with 5 places.

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    Had a couple of small bets on the one-two at Sandown today.

    Elegant Escape 49/1 and in particular (I’m with Moehat and others) Thomas Patrick 40/1.

    May be am a nutter in backing another Tizzard horse for this, but he again looks to have an ideal type. Yet to run over extreme distances and is crying out for/likely to improve significantly over further.

    Thomas Patrick jumps for fun and looks as though will stay long distances with staying sire and dam’s sire Winged Love and Phardante… And won the Aintree staying handicap over Mildmay fences at the Grand National meeting – so goes well at the track and time of year (more important than people give credit for). I know he will only be 7 and that may put the trainer off; but that is a daft stat as not many have tried. If horses are proven stayers in largish fields who jump well – they should run no matter what their age. If he was trained by a well known trainer Thomas Patrick would be one of the favourites.

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    moehat
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    I was on Abolitionist last year, too and am gutted that I haven’t had any ante post bets on him for this year.

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    Mike007
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    Elegant Escape and Thomas Patrick are too young.

    #1380348
    moehat
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    I said that about 3 year olds winning the Melbourne Cup. Reached a point of thinking anything is possible these days!

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    Have you looked at how many 7 year olds have run in the Grand National compared to other ages, Mike?

    Just one 7 year old winning would statistically mean they’d be a good age.

    Such a small percentage of runners have been 7 year olds that one win would be a bigger percentage of winners to runners.

    Can understand being against most 7 year olds because they don’t have the necessary experience. But every horse has a different set of qualities and experiences. I wouldn’t dismiss any horse on one extremely dubious stat and look instead at the whole package, including form. The reason most 7 year olds won’t be as good in the Grand National is they haven’t run in bigger fields, can’t cope and/or don’t jump well enough. Thomas Patrick is a magnificent jumper of fences, has already won a big handicap at the Aintree meeting and will have run in races like the Ladbroke Trophy and/or Welsh National before the Grand National comes along.

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    Thomas Patrick for a start needs soft ground. So that’s the first risk. Then there was an article the other day from the trainer saying he sees him as a national horse of the future but doesn’t know yet whether that’s this season or next so that’s risk 2.

    Elegant Escape I don’t see as a National horse this season either.
    Certainly one for the future though.

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    Yala Enki showed he isn’t as ground dependent as they’d have you believe today. What a gutsy win. That Haydock success was no fluke! Shouldn’t be too harshly treated either, so you’d think all roads lead here with races like the Hennessy and National Trial again looking on the agenda. Definitely goes on the watchlist.

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    I bet Vintage Clouds at 33-1. I didn’t expect him to win today, but he did + he won’t face being ballotted out this time.

    I’m a fan of Abolitionist, so he got added at 50-1 too.

    #1387034
    Mike007
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    I was already on Vintage Clouds at 50s so glad he ran well. Also on Rathvinden at 33s and Abololitionist at 40s.

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    I’m assuming that Trevor Hemmings bought Lakeview Lad as a potential National horse.

    He won yesterday off 139. Would a mark in the high 140s get him in the race?

    #1387881
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    He should get in no problem after that Patriot.

    #1387882
    Avatar photoDBRDBR
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    This year 142 was the lowest mark.

    #1387883
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    Thanks folks. It would be great to see my local trainer Nick Alexander have his first contender in the big one.

    It’s just a shame that Lucy never gets to ride it.

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    Avatar photoQuelle Farce
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    Looking forward to Beware the Bear staying on (from tailed off 2nd Bechers) into fourth in April, a la State of Play.

    Get Moloney on it.

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