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  • #1349117
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Another race which is hard to be strong on, with Aintree and Ayr approaching, there are certainly a large number of these entered for the two Nationals, let alone the other races.

    https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/54/sandown/2018-04-28/696821

    There are five that jump out straight away though…….

    Calett Mad – The Albert Barltett looked the wrong choice for this horse, I certainly preferred his chances in The Pertemps, but either way, you have to forgive a lifeless run to consider him here. I’m happy to forgive him, the AB was a tough old gig, and he wasn’t the only one to pull up. If given a long enough break here, by swerving Aintree and Ayr, I think he should be worth another try, and with enough chasing experience under his belt, I’ll quietly ignore the fact that The Albert Bartlett is hardly a traditional stepping stone for this. I was at Musselburgh when he won, and he was very impressive. Trainer has a strong looking hand for The Scottish National, and interesting that Calett doesn’t feature there. If he comes here, he’s a massive player, and a very nice price right now. 20’s

    Mr Mix – Has to improve, but not out of the question, and considering connections, he, at the very least, looks one of the more likely ones to head here. With so many question marks over the others, he does provide some sort of Ante-Post appeal, and he won’t be this price when he does look as if he’ll be heading here. 33’s

    Ms Parfois – Ran the race of her life in The National Hunt Chase, and if over those exertions, a serious player here, who deserves her place at the head of the market. Still on a smashing mark, and one of those horses who screams “Hennessey”. Off a mark like that, they have to consider the handicap route, but going forward, I think she could tackle graded company, and I just have a hunch me might see her at Aintree or Punchestown, with lofty targets. 12’s

    Present Man – Another horse who could take an unusual route here, having been last seen in a Novice Hurdle that day at Musselburgh. Another horse I got to see in the flesh that day, and though no “paddock watcher”, or a good judge of horseflesh, he looked really unfit before the race, and I thought there and then that it was a quiet run to keep him ticking over. Yes, he pulled up in this last year, off 5lbs lower, but he’s got a couple of wins under his belt, including in The Badger Ales, and he may be worth another try. He does look about the right price just now though. 16’s

    Theatre Guide – Did me proud in this last year, and at Kempton before that, so when he ran a big race in The Badger Ales, I thought that there’s life in the old dog yet. Happy to forgive his run in The Cotswold, that looked the wrong race for him, while you can put a line through last time, where he had an uncharacteristic fall. Down 5lbs on the mark he placed on last year, and he looks one of the more likely ones to head here, the owners will be here with Cue Card (they also have Royal Vacation) and he just looks too big. 40’s

    I’d be mad keen on Calett Mad then, and will watch the market closely. I won’t be diving in big just now, as this will be a fairly big betting race for me, and don’t want to blow the budget on a Nonner. I’ll top up if the price starts to plummet. The other one is Theatre Guide, and he seems, touch wood anyway, a fairly safe Ante-Post proposition, at too big a price.

    I’ll have a proper look at this race at the five day stage, but until then, those are the five that jump out.

    Callet Mad 20’s Win
    Theatre Guide 40’s Each Way

    GL

    #1351013
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    I’ll wait until Monday for this, but I must admit to being sorely tempted with Gold Present at 16-1 for this, as there must be chance that he’ll get his ground.

    #1351016
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    Plan is to run him in the Scottish Nash on Saturday Lemons.

    #1351164
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    Thank you Kev, I know that the odd horse has been known to take in both races, but I can’t see him doing both.

    I’ll wait and see who stays in on Monday

    #1351555
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    Had a crack at MINELLA DADDY at 33s. Hope he gets in

    #1351582
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    I’ve also had a bet on Minella Daddy at 33/1. He’s 46 at the moment so will need plenty to drop out but of those above him 26 ran in either the Grand National or Scottish National and 4 others ran at those respective meetings. Of the others I see the likes of Yala Enki, Callett Mad and Domesday Book as only 50/50 to line up so I feel Minella Daddy is probably going to get in.

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    Another I’ve backed is Saphir Du Rheu at 25/1. He’s been dropped 4 pounds for his poor efforts this season but to be fair they were both runs against the Gold Cup winner. He’ll be fresher than most if lining up and would also arrive off a very light season unlike others who’ve had more than a few battles on heavy ground over the course of the winter. If he could turn up in similar form to days when he finished a close up 6th in last year’s Gold Cup and when running away with an Aintree Grade 1 then this price would look very big indeed.

    #1351594
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    Had another look at this, and you can put me in the Minella Daddy camp as well guys. Big fan of the horse, and I’d be amazed if he doesn’t become an Grand National contender in the next couple seasons. Bet him for this seasons renewal, though it was always highly unlikely that he’d get in. No such worries here, and I think he’ll get in comfortably, as this will definitely cut up. Always give the trainers runners in these type of races a bit of time, and he won it last year with Henllan Harri, who’s probably not as good as Minella. Having said that, I still wouldn’t rule out Harri either, once this cuts up.

    I’m really keen on Impulsive Star now, with him being a late withdrawal at Ayr yesterday. He ran a cracker at Cheltenham, which I didn’t see coming, and if in the same mood here, he must have a live chance here at 20’s. I think this is another horse who can cement himself as a regular in these top end handicaps over the next 2 years.

    Of the original selections, I’ve only bet Theatre Guide so far, and I still think that 40’s is crazy. I’ve decided to make Callet Mad a saver, should he be declared tomorrow, and if he gets confirmed, I’ll add more on him then, and obviously sacrifice that 20’s. I keep getting the Munir/Souede horses wrong Ante-Post, and had a few reverses this season trying to second guess them, with the likes of Ballykan, and Ballybolley, so just a bit wary.

    I’ll still not be close to be hitting my budget for this, even if Callet makes it, and there are a few others on the radar, the likes of

    Rock The Kasbah
    Henllan Harri
    Relentless Dreamer
    Present Man

    all considered strongly, but for now, going three handed.

    Theatre Guide ew 40’s
    Minella Daddy win 33’s
    Impulsive Star win 20’s

    #1351600
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    Missed Approach 9-1 for me at this stage.

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    ROCK THE KASBAH at 16/1 for me think Hobbs may end season in bit of form

    #1351609
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    The Young Master runs here all being well and he looks too big at 20s.

    Unseated SWC at the first on Saturday when fancied but jumped fine at Cheltenham the time before when he was running for the first time after a wind-op. Won this two years ago off 148 and he’s now off 132.

    #1351697
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    Saphir Du Rheu’s been pulled out which is a stake lost but my other two (Minella Daddy at 33/1 and Sugar Baron at 20/1) are left in and are sure to get a run now which is a positive.

    Was tempted to dabble on Regal Encore at 33/1 yesterday but thought they might pull up stumps for the season, he’s left in and a best priced 16/1 now. Missed the boat there I feel.

    #1351723
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    Kev, with Impulsive Star not going, I’ll definitely be adding another, and I’m definitely coming round to The Young Master, but might wait till final decs now.

    #1352019
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    I’ve long been a fan of The Young Master, and I’d earmarked him over the last
    few years for just about everything from the Welsh and Grand National’s to Britain’s
    Got Talent. It just wasn’t to be, and although I had him in this 2 years ago (toot
    toot….sorry that’s my best trumpeting impression) I simply can’t go over another
    cliff with him. That probably guarantees anyone backing him that he’ll go hosing in :wacko:

    I do think this looks set up nicely for Sugar Barron at 12/1. He
    ran a cracker of a race over C/D in December and was only one stride away from pegging
    back Benbens at the death when he was running on strongly. He was raised a couple of
    pounds for that, but after his run in the Kim Muir, on ground he didn’t like, he’s back
    down to the same mark. I would have raised him more than the 2lbs after his Sandown
    run where his run was as good as a win in my book. I think he’s quite well in here and
    carrying 10-2 is a big bonus.

    You have to respect the joint favourite Blaklion, and after coming down at the 1st in the
    National he will be fresh enough here. The problem for me is that he’s running off his highest
    mark and he’s got 11-12 to carry. Barring the brilliant, if somewhat quirky Tidal Bay, nothing
    has carried more than 11st to victory in this in the last 11 runnings.

    Missed Approach is still on a decent enough mark, and 10-11 with 5lbs off for his amateur
    rider makes him interesting after his fine Kim Muir win. If he’s in the same form he’s a real
    threat.

    I’ll stick with just Sugar Barron at this point. I wish I had bagged the 20s that Charles took,
    but I think 12s with a guaranteed run is decent enough :good:

    #1352088
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    I’ll take a chance on the outsider here, Domesday Book. I’ve bet him on more than one occasion, and if there are no I’ll effects from his layoff, then he is too big a price

    #1352096
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    There’s some real course specialists here, Rathlin Rose, Benbens and HBO. All probably a bit long in the tooth now but are priced accordingly. Blaklion has a real tough task with top weight but is a sound jumper usually and stable in good form-he should go close. However I might give HBO one more chance if not feeling the effects of falling in the National, he ran well here a few starts ago and is only a lb higher.

    #1352102
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    I went with Sugar Baron & Missed Approach here once they were declared on Monday, and I may even add one of the outsiders before Saturday

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