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February 9, 2017 at 20:46 #1286607
We saw the effect 8lb makes today at Huntingdon.TAPK’s Neptune horse Messire des Obeaux getting caught close home after lumping 11-12 round…’Clyne’ supporters will feel the same way on Saturday when Ballyandy gets the same amount from him.
February 9, 2017 at 21:04 #1286609Just done Ballyandy in an each treble with your Derby horse and your Kim Muir horse Gord.
My bank manager will be happy when they come in………Blackbeard to conquer the World
February 9, 2017 at 21:35 #1286618Just done Ballyandy in an each treble with your Derby horse and your Kim Muir horse Gord.
My bank manager will be happy when they come in………Thats a 500/1 treble Nath….Easy money! Good luck.
February 9, 2017 at 23:08 #1286630Can certainly see the arguments for Ballyandy. He would be a solid choice although I also like Zubayar.
February 10, 2017 at 09:53 #1286642I wouldn’t dismiss MOVEWITHTHETIMES in this race, looked like he was ridden in the last races was just to protect his handicap mark, very very unlucky behind Ballyandy on penultimate start. I think it’s more to come from him, jockey booking and vibes from the trainer suggest it anyhow. Interesting thing, The Name Escapes Me trained by Noel Meade was a non-runner in Coral Hurdle, stable first jockey S Flanagan was booked to ride him in that race, but he switched to Ice Cold Soul (another Meade’s horse) – winner of that race. Maybe trainer thought that Ice Cold Soul is good enough to win Coral Hurdle and kept better horse The Name Escapes Me for Newbury, it’s just a guess… If the price will be still atrracting I will back him E/W without favs, think got a chance to be placed. Backed Clyne in a couple E/W acca as well. Clyne is carrying big weight but he is front-runner and has a plenty of speed (proved it in last race beating L’ami Serge by over 3 lengths carrying the same weights 11st-4). I will be surprised if Clyne and Movewiththetimes won’t get placed, but it’s racing luck is needed ;)
February 10, 2017 at 18:27 #1286674Can certainly see the arguments for Ballyandy. He would be a solid choice although I also like Zubayar.
zubayr’s wind op after Sanding sounds like it’s helped his breathing Judge
February 10, 2017 at 19:13 #1286684Hope so mate although I’ve been running worse than a one legged oap with asthma so ignore anything i put up
February 10, 2017 at 19:37 #1286693Hope so mate although I’ve been running worse than a one legged oap with asthma so ignore anything i put up
A bit late for me judge. He was cut across the boards within 30 minutes when prices came out . 50’s was available at a few places
February 10, 2017 at 21:25 #1286720De name escapes me EW at 20s. Good luck folks
February 10, 2017 at 22:21 #1286739Think Song Light each way at 12/1 is the way to go.
February 10, 2017 at 23:05 #1286749Not original but on BallyAndy at 13/2, hope they make the running on him and make it a true test
February 10, 2017 at 23:14 #1286752What are the odds that one gets taken out tomorrow to leave the race as three places only?
February 11, 2017 at 00:01 #1286758I’ve had a score e/w Gassin Golf @ 25/1. After returning from a year on the sidelines, this c&d winner is 2lb lower than his last course visit. His comeback runs weren’t shoddy after injury, and certainly not over the right distance, he never settled over an extended trip last time, but with the return to the minimum, blinkers on, a liking for Newbury, and 2lb lower than for his last victory here, screams a good e/w play.
February 11, 2017 at 00:46 #1286772Not original but on BallyAndy at 13/2, hope they make the running on him and make it a true test
Think he’ll need to front run to have any chance, Andrew. Ballyandy only on a reasonable mark on hurdles form, but has obvious potential given bumpers form. However, looked slow at 2m this season and will need a strong pace/test of stamina at the trip if he’s to win. I’ll look to bet in running on him – if atall.
Clyne the most likely to be up there somewhere near the front, could have a tactical advantage. Progress seemed to continue against The New One last time. If the small field form can be relied on Clyne has a major chance. Another minor worry is Even Williams isn’t in as good nick as he was then. Therefore, just a saver for me.
Movewiththetimes is a similar type to Ballyandy in a first season hurdler, but seems to have more speed. Didn’t get the best of rides/runs when the two met earlier in the season. Got the usual JP pre-Betfair prep run. Suspicion is he’s considerably better than shown to date. Won much easier than winning distance indicates last time. Should play major role if kept handy. Main bet.
My other main bet is Wait For Me. Possibly unlucky not to win race won by William Bonny at Cheltenham last time – late mistakes. Gave impression his progression is not at an end. Hope he’s not given too much to do, Richard Johnson is usually aware in tactical races. At double figure prices imo worth taking a chance on jumping.
Irish horse Veinard also looked unlucky last time with a mistake at the last. But he’s come there looking dangerous before without winning. Saver or back to lay material.
My idea of the best outsider is Kayf Blanco very progressive up until seemingly disappointing last time out (not clear run). Now off a 1 lb lower mark than penultimate start, good 4 3/4 lengths 3rd in Sandown handicap. I quite like the winner of that – Brain Power – for the Champion Hurdle. 40+/1 Kayf Blanco far too big imo.
Value Is EverythingFebruary 11, 2017 at 07:11 #1286797Beltor 14’s
Wait for Me 10’sPreference for the latter
February 11, 2017 at 07:42 #1286800Yep wait for me is the one forme too!
If only this horse could jump… He would be 10lbs well in
February 11, 2017 at 08:24 #1286803Not original but on BallyAndy at 13/2, hope they make the running on him and make it a true test
Think he’ll need to front run to have any chance, Andrew. Ballyandy only on a reasonable mark on hurdles form, but has obvious potential given bumpers form. However, looked slow at 2m this season and will need a strong pace/test of stamina at the trip if he’s to win. I’ll look to bet in running on him – if atall.
Clyne the most likely to be up there somewhere near the front, could have a tactical advantage. Progress seemed to continue against The New One last time. If the small field form can be relied on Clyne has a major chance. Another minor worry is Even Williams isn’t in as good nick as he was then. Therefore, just a saver for me.
Movewiththetimes is a similar type to Ballyandy in a first season hurdler, but seems to have more speed. Didn’t get the best of rides/runs when the two met earlier in the season. Got the usual JP pre-Betfair prep run. Suspicion is he’s considerably better than shown to date. Won much easier than winning distance indicates last time. Should play major role if kept handy. Main bet.
My other main bet is Wait For Me. Possibly unlucky not to win race won by William Bonny at Cheltenham last time – late mistakes. Gave impression his progression is not at an end. Hope he’s not given too much to do, Richard Johnson is usually aware in tactical races. At double figure prices imo worth taking a chance on jumping.
Irish horse Veinard also looked unlucky last time with a mistake at the last. But he’s come there looking dangerous before without winning. Saver or back to lay material.
My idea of the best outsider is Kayf Blanco very progressive up until seemingly disappointing last time out (not clear run). Now off a 1 lb lower mark than penultimate start, good 4 3/4 lengths 3rd in Sandown handicap. I quite like the winner of that – Brain Power – for the Champion Hurdle. 40+/1 Kayf Blanco far too big imo.
I agree with you in general Ginger. I’ve backed Clyne & Movewiththetimes to win because they come out a few clear on my figures. Slight worry with Clyne is shortish time since max effort career best at Haydock and as Move’s figure is one of the least accurate because he is so unexposed (could be another Zarkandar) I’ve invested on both.
I then have a whole ruck of horses closely matched: Wait For Me, William H Bonney, Kayf Blanco, Ballyandy and probably Gassin Golf & Song Light. Of these I personally favour WHB but the storming E/W bet at prices is Kayf Blanco. However, 2 bets is enough for me so I haven’t indulged.
Ballyandy, as with most good Bumper horses, needs 2 1/2. The least likely winners imo: Boite, De Name Escapes Me, Hargam, Eddiemaurice. Veinard looks totally exposed.
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