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Timeform class Thistlecrack’s performance as superior to Coneygree’s in the Gold Cup
https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/result/kempton-park/2016-12-26/0315/27/5
That’s actually only the race’s performance ratings, Joe. Only what the position/distances back to the placed horses allow. However, for the Timeform Master Rating (what rating they believe he’d be capable of) quite rightly they’ve taken account of how he won, that move 4 out and a long way clear 2 1/2 out giving a more accurate assessment of his superiority over the field than winning distances of 3 1/4, short head and head.
Thistlecrack’s Timeform Performance Rating was 167+ but…
Thistlecrack’s Timeform Master Rating is now 180pValue Is EverythingIt’s interesting how various ratings services differ, and I suspect they always have over the years. I respect that a number of people swear by Timeform but they have never been for me. In this instance they appear to have copped out in a flurry of plusses & question marks!
Horse…TFM….RP…..Me
Thi…..167+…178….176
CC……164?…166….169
SC……164?…166….168
TFT…..164?…165….168
JH……160….163….164I stick by my ratings. What is of more interest is what figure Thistlecrack could run to if pressed, say in the GC. Based on 178 for an easy World Hurdle win I think he could do 183 over Hurdles and a standard improvement from Hurdles to Chases is 10 so I would still predict 193. He still has to prove it and it is no small task, however, Monday removed a lot of the doubt. He deserves to be given the benefit of any remaining but if you think Monday was impressive imagine the reaction if this horse is, for once, ridden out and wins the GC by 10+ lengths!
Different ratings services are on different scales GM.
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