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i am big enough to take it on the chin ,if i am on your unable to read a form book list.
I look forward to seeing if i am on your listtbh for someone who is a professional investor and is so much better than everyone else on this forum at racing reading and everything else at the game it makes you laugh he spends so much time on here defending his opinion.
Blackbeard to conquer the World
tbh for someone who is a professional investor and is so much better than everyone else on this forum at racing reading and everything else at the game it makes you laugh he spends so much time on here defending his opinion.
Ah you’ve f***ed it now, Nathan, you’re definitely on his list!
jesus ginger that what a scathing attack on many who post on here.I’m with Zarkava name and shame.
Rubbish, it’s not a “scathing attack”, is it a scathing attack to say the vast majority of punters in the wider world don’t read form good enough to make a profit? I see no reason to believe TRF punters are any different. On the evidence of what is written on here the analysis of most isn’t up to making a profit. Am sure there’s a few TRFers who are good at reading form who haven’t shown it on these pages. But no matter how uncomfortale it is to hear, it’s the truth.
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Jonibake, Steeplechasing, Vtc, Betlarge, G… Oh sorry, you wanted to know those who are NOT good at reading form – sadly that list would take forever.
Value Is Everythingtbh for someone who is a professional investor and is so much better than everyone else on this forum at racing reading and everything else at the game it makes you laugh he spends so much time on here defending his opinion.
I enjoy debating horse racing issues Nathan and this is a horse racing forum.
There are many “better”, it’s just being popular isn’t important to me and am not afraid to speak the truth.Value Is EverythingList:
Jonibake, Steeplechasing, Vtc, Betlarge, G… Oh sorry, you wanted to know those who are NOT good at reading form – sadly that list would take forever. You’ve really hurt my feelings, Ginge.
tbh for someone who is a professional investor and is so much better than everyone else on this forum at racing reading and everything else at the game it makes you laugh he spends so much time on here defending his opinion.
I enjoy debating horse racing issues Nathan and this is a horse racing forum.
There are many “better”, it’s just being popular isn’t important to me and am not afraid to speak the truth.That’s great ginge always good to speak the truth, just so long as you don’t end up with no one left to debate with.
Lot’s of us liked discussion and/or reading SteveCaution’s posts and it was plain to see that he was not interested in a debate with you yet at times you had to continue beyond necessary. just my opinion.Blackbeard to conquer the World
Here we go again.
“Continue beyond necessary” like you Nathan.
Might have known you’d come on here and stir the pot.
Just my opinion.Value Is EverythingBut you miss the point if I have a horse in at 4/1 but I don’t fancy it to win and the books open it up at 5/1,I will not then make it a bet because it is value,when it seems you would.The word value is over used in my opinion,how many times have we heard a pundit say the favour will win but horse b is the value bet,how does that make sense if you don’t believe b will win?
It has nothing to do with whether you “fancy it”, nwalton. 4/1 is 4/1, it does not make sense to “fancy” one you put in @ 4/1 more than another you put in at the same 4/1. How can you fancy one you believe has a 1 in 5 chance more than another you believe has a 1 in 5 chance?
If you’re not saying your 4/1 has a 1 in 5 chance then you’re not assessing it as a 4/1 chance.
The pundit is not saying the fav “will win”, he might say it will “probably win” or it “has the best chance”. If the fav is only available @ 6/4 and the punter believes it only has a 1 in 3 chance of winning (fair 2/1) then it is a poor bet. If there’s another horse available @ 16/1 he believes has a 1 in 9 chance of winning (fair 10/1) then it makes perfect sense to back it @ 16/1, even though believing it has a 1 in 9 chance of winning and a 9 in 10 chance of losing.
ie if winning 1 in 3 bets @ 6/4 a punter will lose money. So there’s no point in taking this particular fav @ 6/4. Where as if winning 1 in 9 bets @ 16/1 the punter will make a massive profit. Perfect sense.
If “the word value is over-used”:
Why would anyone be happy with a strike rate of 1 in 3 on horses priced 6/4?
Why would anyone not want a 1 in 9 stike rate on horses priced 16/1?Value Is Everythingso you and i am really hurt keep digging me out,i have made this pay since 1991 but i dont have to like you spout off how great i am.
You keep telling me how i am betting and what i am doing but you do not know how i work.As for the form book and as you say loads on here have not got a clue,would you say you have a good grasp of the form book,by backing 6/7 in a 13 runner race? or is it just panic ‘value’ scatter gun approachbtw on my thread was 77 pts for the year,since i moved it to twitter from july this year when started posting i am just over 80 pts up,i back mainly to £100pp so not to shabby for a clueless bloke,and most bets are under 4 pt bets.
But you keep telling people on here the cant read a form book,anyway i will let you have last word and tell me how to do this gambling/investing lark
Say want you want i wont respond as i am not on internet to row.
Good luck to everyone on here some really nice blokes/ladies i have chatted to on here who i am sure can read a form book
Que a long, protracted & pedantic response with sections of your post dissected to suit his agenda. Can’t wait…
would you say you have a good grasp of the form book,by backing 6/7 in a 13 runner race? or is it just panic ‘value’ scatter gun approach
Zark’ gave you a good analogy of the spin of a coin earlier nwalton, so I’ll use the throw of a dice to explain why I might back half the field:
With a throw of a dice every numbber has a 1 in 6 (fair 5/1) chance.
If a friend makes a book and offers me:1) 7/2
2) 6/1
3) 9/2
4) 7/1
5) 4/1
6) 7/1I wouldn’t dream of criticising anyone who wanted to have just one sole bet on either the 4 or the 6, that’s their preference and there’s nothing wrong with it.
My own way of betting would be:
I’ll back both the 4 and the 6 as main bets because they are excellent value @ 7/1, with a saver on the 2 because that is also value (but not as much value) @ 6/1. Yes, backing half the field. May also lay others in the race but I generally don’t put lay bets up on my thread.Value Is Everything
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