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  • #391902
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    Desperately unimpressive stuff from Long Run. Comparing that peformance to Sprinter Sacre is like chalk and cheese, yet theres not much difference in price. Amazed he’s still the price he is, must be the lay of the meeting now.

    I’d be willing to stake a large amount of money that you’re losing since you started gambling.

    Sprinter Sacre’s a banker, despite never having won when coming off the bridle or at an undulating course, but Long Run’s the lay of the meeting despite being 331 at Cheltenham and the reigning champ.

    #391903
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    Not seen the race but i am happy with the result, apparantly jumped well enough and i imagine the pace was muddling enough???

    Bring in some serious stamina questionas and long run wins by further. he has required stamina and a top notch engine. Has to go close!!

    #391905
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    Zarkava wants to make it personal.. hmm interesting. Had a feeling you were a troll but your last post just confirms it.

    #391912
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    Whatever. I have no time for amateurs that know nothing about racing. Go over to not606.com if you want to talk to people like you, but this is an intelligent horse racing forum for intelligent people that actually know about horse racing.

    #391923
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    Zarkava
    Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:04 pm
    Whatever. I have no time for amateurs that know nothing about racing. Go over to not606.com if you want to talk to people like you, but this is an intelligent horse racing forum for intelligent people that actually know about horse racing.

    Why are you on it then? :lol:

    Judging by the moronic and troll-like nature of your posts, i’d be willing to bet a lot of money that you don’t have a lot of money to place these wagers you seem so fond of. Reading between the lines you strike me as someone who is delusional about the level of intelligence you think you possess, and look down on everyone who has the gumption to disagree with mr high and mighty. :lol:

    My guess is you’re an only child who still lives at home with mummy, doesn’t have a job or a girlfriend, and gets his kicks out of winding people up on a forum. Get a life you loser. :wink:

    And to think I thought this place was a bit higher-class than the Betfair Forum. How wrong I was.

    #391926
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    I think you’re starting to realise you’ve done your bollocks With Long Run in the Gold Cup which is why you’re throwing your toys out of the pram.

    Understandable though, because spoilt children normally act like that when they don’t get their own way :(

    #391930
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    Long run’s jumping left handed became more marked the further they went, hope he hasn’t hurt himself. At least SWC managed to hold half of him today which is an improvement on Haydock and Kempton. Burton Port ran very well just might be worried about the ‘bounce’ after such a long break. Firming up on bit EW on Midnight Chase for Gold Cup myself.

    #391932
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    The 4’s at WH looking very attractive for Kauto after that race. Looks as if Long Run has gone backwards this year.

    #391934
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    I don’t understand what race people were watching, really I don’t. Long Run beat What A Friend by 4 1/4 lengths whilst giving 10lbs.

    Long Run beat What A Friend in the Gold Cup by…11 lengths.

    Long Run beat Tidal Bay by 19 1/4 lengths whilst giving 10lbs.

    Long Run beat Tidal Bay in the Gold Cup by…23 lengths.

    So he’s beaten What A Friend by a further 3 lengths and Tidal Bay by a further 4 lengths and people call it a bad prep.

    Incredible.

    Sam Waley-Cohen used the whip 5 times today. He used in 10+ times in the King George, Betfair Chase and last season’s Paddy Power and Gold Cup. And you really think Henderson had him at 100% today?

    Elgransenor, I’ve backed Captain Chris in the Gold Cup. I’ve got Long Run and Chris in multiples. I wouldn’t swap either of them.

    Your read was very accurate. I’m unemployed and an only child. The rest was off, sorry.

    #391935
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    Good effort from Long Run..his 3 efforts this year have shown he maintains his ability and now returns to the scene of his best ever performance.
    No certainty but a solid favourite for the Gold Cup.

    #391947
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    Satisfactory performance by Long Run, tho jumped significantly left-handed the whole way round. Burton Port was eye-catching, tho the "bounce" may be a factor, and improvemnet is not guaranteed. It shows how much of a loss Weapons Amnesty is.

    #391957
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    I’m sure the Denman Chase just shows that a

    100%

    Diamond Harry is up to Gold Cup standard. I think he is at least 10lbs better than Burton Port and probably even had breathing issues when walking all over him in the Hennessy and Fixed Brush final. He looked sure to canter away in The Hennessy but struggled home in the end – perhaps choking?

    The question is only whether Diamond Harry will show up at Cheltenham. He is like the yeti of horse racing. There are only occasional sightings, but his footprints are all over the formbook!

    Burton Port (getting weight on comeback against a probably rusty Long Run) running the champion so close was really encouraging. That tells me that Diamond Harry (at his best, mind you) is equal or almost equal in ability to Long Run. With breathing fixed, if Nick Williams can get the horse primed, then I see him as a real contender.

    All things considered, I’ll take a chance with the 40/1 available at the moment. That price represents the great possibility that the horse’s fragility will cost him again, yet still gives value if you believe he is the best horse in the race.

    #391960
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    Very surprised by the negatives re Long Run and especially from the bookies.
    A solid if unspectacular win, putting distance between himself and the pack between last two fences, giving 10ib, then staying on fairly well but probably getting tired. Would probably have been 85-90% fit today. I’ve been questioning him this season, but to me, his price should be contracting after this run, SWC will be a relieved man to have a win under his belt and the extra 2F and hill should be in his favour as there’s no doubt he’s more a stayer than a speed horse this season.

    The last of the BIG 4 has proven himself… happy days, 30/1 is looking good :) (or 55s + for some!).

    #391961
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    As someone who’s Ante Post betting for this race consists of Burton Port (ew at 33s) and Kauto (ew at 14s), I’m rather looking forward to the Gold Cup now. I think BP will improve for that run and, as I’ve said, he’s a tough little thing.

    Now, here’s one for all the LR fans who are convinced he will outstay Kauto, given further – by that logic, you should all be getting on BP right now!

    FLD

    BlueSky @pghenn.bsky.social

    So don't run, just like the others always do

    #391964
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    As someone who’s Ante Post betting for this race consists of Burton Port (ew at 33s) and Kauto (ew at 14s), I’m rather looking forward to the Gold Cup now. I think BP will improve for that run and, as I’ve said, he’s a tough little thing.

    Now, here’s one for all the LR fans who are convinced he will outstay Kauto, given further – by that logic, you should all be getting on BP right now!

    FLD

    Yes, but BP will be 10ib worse off at the weights, which is alot, and even more with an extra 2F!

    BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE :)

    All credit to BP though, a very nice comeback. Almost a replica of his Hennessy run behind ‘Sicknote’ Harry.

    #391975
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    Commiserations to anyone who took a chance on Burton Port. If that was the Gold Cup or the winner was from another stable he wins half a length. How good that makes Long Run I am not too sure but he is certainly not so good that he should be frightening away the opposition.

    #391976
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    Possible bounce factor coming into play with Burton Port? Tough race to have after such a lay off with the big race less than a month away.

    Any Long Run backers might also have to be concerned with the fact that he had a reasonably tough race there.

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