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May 27, 2010 at 14:40 #297119
Dunno whether it would be better if I posted this on a TBV thread instead.
My reading is that Weld is very keen to run Rite Of Passage in the Ascot Gold Cup. His worry about running the horse on Sunday is that the ground may be too Firm, and the horse will get jarred up, and unable to run at Ascot.
WELD WAITS ON SAVAL PLANS
By Keith Hamer, Press Association SportDermot Weld is likely to wait until just before final declaration time on Friday morning before deciding what to run in the Seamus & Rosemary McGrath Memorial Saval Beg Stakes.
The Curragh trainer has both Rite Of Passage and Profound Beauty in the Listed contest over a mile and three-quarters at Leopardstown on Sunday. Both have yet to run on the Flat this term.
Rite Of Passage was last seen finishing third behind Peddlers Cross and Reve De Sivola in the Neptune Investment Management Novices’ Hurdle at the Cheltenham Festival.
Profound Beauty ended the last Flat campaign with a creditable fourth place in the Irish St Leger and her long-term target is the Melbourne Cup in which she was fifth in 2008.
The possibility of fast ground is a concern for Rite Of Passage, who holds an entry in the Gold Cup at Royal Ascot.
"Rite Of Passage is a possibility for the Saval. I have him and Profound Beauty in the race but I won’t decide until Friday which I run because he is a possible for the Gold Cup as well," said Weld.
"I just want to see what the ground is going to be like at Leopardstown.
"The Saval Beg has been a lucky race for us but it’s a very good renewal this year.
"A lot will depend on the ground but it is possible both could run on Sunday.
"We’ve had dry weather and the ground is firm. There is a chance of some rain for Saturday but I’m not sure at the moment," he told At The Races.
May 28, 2010 at 00:30 #297213Gerald, have you heard anything about Weld’s plans for Casual Conquest?
May 28, 2010 at 04:39 #297218No, Ted. No entries either. That would be reasonable if the horse is being aimed at the Melbourne Cup, however. More likely to be consistent with the horse being injured? The horse doesn’t have an entry in either the Irish Champion Stakes or Irish St Leger, and both Rite Of Passage and Profound Beauty have entries in the Irish St Leger, so it looks like the horse is injured.
May 28, 2010 at 10:07 #297242Cheers mate
May 29, 2010 at 10:48 #297418Also, Casual Conquest ran disappointingly in the Irish Champion Stakes, and didn’t race after then, so there is a chance that whatever ails the horse has been ongoing from then.
May 29, 2010 at 11:02 #297428Dermont Weld’s Profound Beauty, 5th in 2008, runs tomorrow at Leopardstown, she didn’t stay the 2 miles as a 4-Y-O, could this be her year? I’d expect her to win over tomorrow’s 1m6f whatever her season’s plan are.
May 30, 2010 at 12:15 #297616The suggestion seems to be that Profound Beauty will be coming back for another tilt at the Melbourne Cup.
Buccellati is now an Australian citizen! He’s in pre training in Queensland (of all places) and he’ll be making his way back to Victoria when Queensland Derby favourite Kutchinsky comes back. He will be trained by Kutchinsky’s trainer, Tony Noonan.
He’s always looked to me like the type of horse who could be competitive in a Melbourne Cup, time will tell!
May 30, 2010 at 13:35 #297632Buccellati eats cane toads for breakfast.
May 30, 2010 at 15:25 #297641AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
Buccellati eats cane toads for breakfast
Nice win by the Weld mare. I didn’t back her but made a couple of quid on the race. I’m not convinced she can win a MC.
May 30, 2010 at 17:56 #297668I simply cant believe that Profound Beauty basically hacked over AOA.
Really firm ground puts this horse in a whole new level imo. No Wonder they left her off Melbourne after that Dire effort on Bottomless ground. OO i be pretty hopeful that she could win the Melbourne. That was a serious effort
May 31, 2010 at 03:40 #297706What shall we do with the Drunken Sailor, ear-lie in the morning?
I’m a bit slow, and didn’t think of this yesterday. Cumani has described Drunken Sailor as a 107 rated h’capper, who is an out-and-out 1m4f horse. Erm, would that mean they’re thinking about the Caulfield Cup?
May 31, 2010 at 10:30 #297730AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
Post race Smullen did mention that the track had been either watered or rained on and that the jar had gone out of it helping the mare. Wasn’t sure she’d want it any firmer. Sounds like one tailor made for the VRC watering policy. He also stated that he thought she had improved with time under her belt. I think the handicap will "fix" her.
Drunken Sailor? Hmmm leave me out of that one too.
May 31, 2010 at 11:47 #297738That’s when it’s convenient for the watering policy to be used though. Viewed’s Melbourne Cup, with Septimus running, we’ll serve up a road. Last year they watered too heavily. I wonder what they did for Cox Plate day though, because that was another road like surface. Start the day on a Dead 4, more like start the day on anything we feel like.
June 1, 2010 at 10:47 #297941Leigh Jordon from the VRC seems convinced that Kite Wood is going to be one of Godolphin’s representatives.
June 1, 2010 at 14:31 #297989Here’s the article. Kite Wood would be one of the 3 or 4 main Godolphin choices for the Melbourne Cup, however, Crisford seems to have an input as regards what would be a well-handicapped horse for the race, and Suroor also has an input as to which horses would be suited by the race.
Victoria
Kite Wood a Cup hope for Godolphin
Sunday, 30 May 2010Kite Wood and Cutlass Bay remain possibilities to represent the world renowned Goldolphin outfit in this year’s Melbourne Cup
Kite Wood is emerging as a Melbourne Cup contender for the Godolphin stable in its bid to end to finally win Australia’s most famous race.
Godolphin has come close with four placings in the Melbourne Cup and the prospects of another raid on the race by the world renowned stable look positive.
Leigh Jordon, Racing Victoria’s general manager – racing operations, said it remained unclear which horse or horses would target the $6 million handicap ahead of the closing of entries on August 3.
However Kite Wood, a Group Two winner at Longchamp in France last weekend remains a distinct possibility.
"The race was over 3100 metres, he gave a great front running display and won in the manner of a horse that would be suited to the Melbourne Cup," Jordon told Racing Victoria Online.
The four-year-old will now be set for the Group One Ascot Gold Cup over 4000m on June 17 – day three of the famous Royal Ascot Carnival.
"We’ll be watching that race with great interest to see how Kite Wood and several other quality stayers perform," Jordon said.
Another Godolphin horse creating interest for Jordon is former French-based galloper Cutlass Bay despite his failure in the Group One Tattersalls Gold Cup (2100m) at The Curragh in Ireland on May 23.
The previously unbeaten four-year-old won the Group One Prix De Ganay – a ballot exemption race for the Cox Plate – at Longchamp on May 2.
"The reports are he failed to handle the ground at The Curragh, but he’s obviously a high quality horse so we’d definitely be interested in attracting him to this year’s carnival," Jordon said.
Under the guidance of trainer Saeed bin Suroor, Godolphin’s three seconds in the Melbourne Cup have come courtesy of Crime Scene (2009), Give The Slip (2001) and Central Park (1999), while Beekeeper finished third in 2002.
The Melbourne Cup is one of the few major races in the world to have eluded Sheikh Mohammed’s Godolphin operation.
The stable’s biggest victory in Australia came with the win of 40-1 shot All The Good in the 2008 Caulfield Cup (2400m) with Kerrin McEvoy in the saddle.
McEvoy rode for Godolphin for several years in Europe before returning home to become the number one jockey for Sheikh Mohammed’s Darley Australia.
June 3, 2010 at 03:27 #298321Sun Setting On Japanese Cup Involvement
Racing and SportsThursday, 3 June 2010: Time is fast running out for Japanese horses to take part in this year’s Melbourne Cup with government red tape seemingly stalling the process.
As it stands the government now has the procedural manuals from the Japanese quarantine centres, which need to be “ticked off”.
Racing Victoria’s Leigh Jordon is disappointed with the government’s lack of haste on the issue, with the manuals likely to be another month away from approval.
The government then has to send inspectors to Japan and approve the quarantine facilities before Japanese horses are given the green light to enter the country.
According to Jordon, Japanese trainers need to know now where they stand in relation to setting horses for an Australian campaign.
Jordon said the slow moving process will all but rule out Japanese horses contesting the 150th running of the Melbourne Cup this November.
June 3, 2010 at 10:02 #298345AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
Surprise, surprise, surprise ( Gomer Pyle face ).
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