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There’s a feature on Jeremy Gask in today’s Racing Post.
Of
Shahwardi
, Gask says: "He’s a recent purchase from the Aga Khan. He arrived last Wednesday and has settled in well. He won three races in France, including a Listed event over a mile and a half, and ran third in a Group 2.
"We’ll be running him in a Listed race at York towards the end of this month over a mile and six. We’re hoping he could eventually become a Melbourne Cup aspirant. It would be an Aussie boy’s dream to have a horse good enough to run in that race."Fair enough Chiswickian, sorry for the "grilling".
I probably couldn’t have Mamlook, I really don’t like these horses racing over 3800m, 4000m consistently.
I agreed with what you said about Alandi, in that Kasbah Bliss went to HK and ran well so there is every chance he’ll be able to handle it.
But not Mamlook for me.
I’d be more inclined to have something on Shahwardi, that is the type of horse I think would be suited.
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Ahh well. He would get into the Cup off a fairly light weight. Has won on the flat over 2600m. Don’t let the hurdle form put you off. He hardly ever races on the flat.
Perhaps Mores Wells is a type more appealing to yourself Andy? He’s now with Mr Gibson in France a trainer who has often expressed a desire to run one in the Melbourne Cup. Is in cracking form and goes around in a mile and a half Gr3 this afternoon.
Melbourne Cup 2010 – The dates and antepost odds for Flemington
Faint Perfume is the favourite for the 2010 Melbourne Cup.(credit: Two Big Paws)
Racingbase Staff – 7 May 2010The 2010 Melbourne Cup is rapidly approaching and the antepost betting ahead of Australia’s most prestigious race is beginning to heat up.
To be run on Tuesday November 2 2010, more than 100,000 people are sure to pile into Flemington Racecourse and with a worldwide television audience of 650 million, it is not hard to see why the showpiece is viewed by many as the world’s greatest horse race.
Sportingbet Australia currently have Faint Perfume as their 17.00 market leader in what looks a typically open betting heat. Linton (20.00) and Jessicabeel (21.00) are right behind the antepost favourite, but it could be 2009 Melbourne Cup winner Shocking who is of most interest to punters, with odds of 23.00 being offered about the Aussie superstar retaining his crown.
Japanese racing sensation Oken Bruce Lee is a 35.00 chance while Efficient is currently being offered at the same price.
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Mamlook simply isn’t rated high enough to get into the Melbourne Cup.
News about the horse, anyway. They’ll sidestep the 2m4f Ascot Stakes (H’cap), as they think the horse’s mark is too high, and instead go for the longest race in the calendar, the 2m6f Queen Alexandra.
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Mamlook simply isn’t rated high enough to get into the Melbourne Cup.
The above statement is, quite simply put, factually incorrect.
Is it? I was thinking that a mature horse would have to be rated 108 or so to get in the race this year.
In proper money, Mourilyan carried 8-8, Munsef 8-5 and Basaltico 8-2. I am taking these to be English marks of 112, 109 and 106.
Basaltico was the last mature horse to get into the race, as the ones carrying less than him were either 4yos or mares.
Mamlook has just won the Chester Cup off 96, and has gotten a Racing Post Rating of 103 for it.
There are a hell of a lot of ex-European horses being aimed at the race this year, so it seems reasonable that a mature horse will have to be rated maybe 108 instead of 106 last year to get into it.
I tend to agree.
It is going to be a cracking race this year.
If he does run in the Queen Alexandra, I definitely won’t back him in a Melbourne Cup.
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As always it has the potential to be a cracking race this year. This is horse racing though not death and taxes. It’s a long time to November.
I wouldn’t be so worried about the high number of imports currently in Oz. If we’re going to quote current or historic trends then we need to look at the recent successes of the stables concerned when it comes to getting imports to the start on Cup day. It’s not a pretty site when viewed from that direction. Mr Hayes and Freedman along with a couple of others need to pick up their game. David’s father ( legend C.S.Hayes ) was vastly superior at handling imports. Sonny boy seems to have lost the knack. The Freedman camp is more miss than hit across the board these days.
There also seems to be a great doubt about any Japanese runner again this year. The VRC do not have any control over quarantine restrictions no matter how hard they lobby.
I’d definitely run Mamlook if he was mine. He can’t handle the wet during the jumps season anyway. He’s tough and sound which is a lot more than can be said about any number of the horses imported to Oz. He’s certainly no mour dour than placegetters Jardines Lookout and Persian Punch. I’d even say he was in a similar mould to past winner Vintage Crop. I’m not saying the horse is a likely winner, simply a very worthy competitor.
Yes, I’d agree with that. Its rather embarrassing the way that the Aussies can quite easily write off the Pom horses as being either fragile or paceless. Direct the criticism at the aussie trainers instead.
I wasn’t saying anything about whether Mamlook could win or get placed, just that at this stage he needs to put in another improved performance to actually get into the race.
Stanstill has been bought by OTI for the Melbourne Cup.
Stanstill is on the move as former Australian cricketer Simon O’Donnell eyes Melbourne Cup triumph
By Marcus Townend
Last updated at 10:23 PM on 9th May 2010Stanstill, one of the most progressive stayers in training, has been bought by a syndicate headed by former Australian Test cricketer Simon O’Donnell to run in the Melbourne Cup.
The four-year-old, who will race for the OTI Racing Syndicate, is due to run in the Listed Braveheart Stakes at Hamilton on Friday. He will remain with Yorkshire trainer Alan Swinbank.
The deal to buy Stanstill followed a clinical comeback victory at Southwell in March, his fourth of his 10 races.
Bloodstock agent Alastair Donald, who brokered the deal, said: ‘He looks a progressive stayer with a turn of foot who goes on any ground. We are not going to overface him. He’ll be kept to Listed class and may even go the Ebor Handicap route.’
O’Donnell, who played on the 1985 Ashes tour, almost won Australia’s biggest race in 2008 with his share in Luca Cumani’s runner-up Bauer.
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Yes he’s one that’s still going in the right direction. Needs to continue with significant improvement though. Aga Khan pedigree on dam side certainly a plus.
This thread is turning into a farewell party for British stayers. The Cesarewitch will end up a walkover.
Alandi and Mourayan are likely to have their first start in Australia at Flemington this weekend – down the Flemington Straight Six (6f, 1200m).
It is a typical Lloyd Williams preparation, he did it with Efficient last year – in fact Efficient ran in the exact same race last year.
This will probably be their only run until August.
Don’t think we’ve ever had a horse drop so far in distance from their last start though – 4000m to 1200m!
Alandi will do well to get within 20 – 30 lengths then.
There should be a market set up on the margin he’ll get beat by. He’s only going to be warming up at Flemington once he’s passed the clock tower on the 2nd lap.
Anyone else seeing a problem developing here?
There are likely to be 3-4 English or Irish horses, 3-4 Asian horses (HK & Japan), 1-2 Australian owned European horses based in Europe, 4-5 Australian owned European horses based in Australia, 1-2 from other countries, 4-5 Kiwis…
Worst case scenario, that leaves 2 spots for Australian owned and bred horses (that may include Kiwi breds like Efficient).
I tell you what, I can see the 150th Melbourne Cup being bogged down in "
limit the internationals
" calls.
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