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  • #402786
    Avatar photoAdmiralofthefleet
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    Can’t wait for my new aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth to arrive. I am so sick of being bossed about by some Frenchy. :wink:

    #402803
    andyod
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    Rum Mait,Rum.

    #402804
    Blunkett
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    Soumillion on Abtaal.

    Fingers crossed for Moore on Power.

    They’re my two against the field, and I’ll probably do a little reverse forecast too.

    #402808
    andyod
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    Oxx never sends a horse over unless he thinks he has a chance. Good each way bet.

    #402827
    Eclipse First
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    Do you mean grog?

    #402834
    andyod
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    For an Admiral? Only the best Jamaican.

    #402887
    GDC
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    As expected Parish Hall misses out to due ground conditions.

    AOB only sending Camelot and Power (Ryan Moore indeed rides).

    With the weather the way it is who knows how many will actually turn up! Hopefully this bad weather will clear up well before the Derby!!

    #402951
    Avatar photoHurdygurdyman
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    As amazing as it may seem AOB is in a position to run a horse like Camelot and tell his son win if you can but don’t knock him about.

    If Camelot win the 2000 Guineas hard held they will know for sure they have one very good horse on their hands. If he goes close they know there is plenty more to come.

    That is basically why I laid him as it only takes one good horse to be 100% bang on and Camelot could be beaten.

    Quite frankly I doubt if AOB cares as long as his horse run a very good race.

    #402972
    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    Have Power, Born to Sea and Abtaal against the field.

    #402999
    Avatar photoAdmiralofthefleet
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    I am hoping for Born to Sea or Camelot but both have big question marks. The only thing that might help Camelot, who has genetics against him as a Montjeu, is the soft ground will make it more of a stamina test than it ordinarily would be. This will probably have a detrimental effect on an Invincible Spirit cold, but he has plenty of stamina on the distaff side. I think there is something romantic about Urban Sea’s last foal winning a classic so he is my top pick.

    Fingers crossed!

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    Have just seen that Abtaal is now entered in a 10f race later in the year, which bodes well for him staying on the ground tomorrow. Power, however, is not only entered in a 6f race but a 5f one, so surely he won’t stay 8f on soft?

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    Coupe de Ville .. experienced in big fields at hq and fine on soft ground. Seasonal debut in April before the stable ran into form. Champion jockey in the saddle, 150/1 on Betfair

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    "Coupe De Ville has valuable track experience and we think that he’ll handle the ground as it was pretty testing when he won the Stonehenge Stakes at Salisbury last year. He’s 50-1 but then so was Mon Fils in 1973"

    Richard Hannon in the Sporting Life online today.

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    O’Brien has said that last nights election results will not concern Camelot in tomorrows Guineas.

    #403032
    Avatar photoAdmiralofthefleet
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    Anyone know why Was, Wading and Kissed were pulled out? Where will they be running next? Fingers crossed for Maybe, but I think La Collina is a threat and something about Maybe’s last performance made me doubt her.

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    Power has the necessary form in the book and his respective efforts over seven furlongs strongly suggest that this trip will not pose a problem.

    A National Stakes and Coventry winner, who started 15/8 for the Dewhurst, trading at double figures? His defeat of Futurity winner and subsequent conqueror of Dabirsim, Dragon Pulse, looks rock solid form and this hardy individual is more street-wise than most.

    He would arguably be half the price if not for Camelot.

    I think the French have potentially a strong hand of 3YOs this year and Delzangles landed this race with Makfi two years ago. His relatively unknown charge landed the Prix Djebel en route to classic success, and Hermival finished a fine third in that contest on his seasonal bow this year.

    Like Makfi, this unexposed, highly thought of colt has slipped under the radar and could easily find the necessary improvement on only his third run (like Makfi).

    His conqueror that day, French Fifteen (backed @12s), will appreciate every drop of rain and is another major player travelling across the English Channel.

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    Avatar photoGhost of Rob V
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    I think Camelot might win but he’s very poor value for a bet.

    I’ll be betting on Top Offer and, for the outsider, Bronterre.

    Liked the manner of Top Offer’s debut win and although the form of that race doesn’t amount to much, I still feel he’s a good horse.

    Bronterre’s last run seemed too bad to be true. So I’ll give him one last chance for a £5 win.

    Don’t think we’ll see the fireworks from last year’s race though :mrgreen:

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