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  • in reply to: Why Frankel will rule the world #1250474
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    His damsire is Linamix who tends to churn out Greys

    Does this mean that he takes after Linamix rather than Frankel ?

    Linamix was that rarity among thoroughbreds, a true-breeding grey, so every single one of his offspring was grey. Underneath that grey coat, Linamix was a true-breeding bay/brown.

    The colour of Frankel’s foals will have no bearing on their ability, or lack of it.

    in reply to: Galileo Gold and the genetic test #1250332
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    A fascinating article, thanks for posting the link.

    Interesting that Galileo is a TT. If this sort of information had been available 20 years ago, would Galileo have even been bred?

    With Sadler’s Wells almost certainly a TT, judging by his offspring, would he have been considered a suitable mate for Urban Sea?

    in reply to: Protected Names Revisited #1249438
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    Not really on topic, but you might like to know that the Triple Crown winner, Gainsborough, was named not after the artist, but after Gainsborough railway station by his owner-breeder, Lady Douglas, after she browsed through a copy of Bradshaw’s while searching for a name for her colt.

    in reply to: How is the Fixture List compiled? #1249149
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    Wincanton always raced on Thursdays, except for its Boxing Day and Easter Monday fixtures.

    Presumably Thursday was early closing day. Also, for any one day, all the race names used to begin with the same letter. On Easter Monday, it was “A”.

    in reply to: Epsom Derby day out advice #1248642
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    Get the train to Tattenham Corner, the station is just across the road. The trains stop at East Croydon and Purley amongst others on the way, so you can get on at those stations if it’s more convenient. The other station in the centre of Epsom town is on a different line, about 20 minutes walk.

    There are one or two pubs near the course, the Amato being one, but the train service back up to Purley, E Croydon and London is pretty easy and you might prefer an evening out there rather than in Epsom. I think the train still stops at South Croydon, there are a several decent eateries there, and the area’s perhaps a little nicer than the centre of Croydon on a Saturday evening.

    in reply to: Galileo Gold and the genetic test #1248293
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    I can’t believe that Hyperion was genetically a TT, he had a tendency to sire non staying colts.

    I don’t know where you get that idea from. Hyperion himself displayed plenty of stamina as well as speed, finding the St Leger distance no problem. At stud, he got good horses over a variety of trips, but most stayed middle distances at least. His two best colts, Owen tudor and Aureole both stayed well.

    You can see read all about Hyperion at http://www.tbheritage.com/Portraits/Hyperion.html

    in reply to: Racing on ITV #1247733
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    I am surprised they didn’t go for a totally racing person.

    But he is a racing person! It’s just so happened that he’s been covering football in recent years, at which, so Sky football watchers say, he’s pretty good.

    Why on earth is having a broad sporting knowledge a drawback?

    It might make it easier for him to communicate the intricacies and delights of the sport to a wider audience, something that one-trick ponies like Wilson, Luck, Lysaght et al have singularly failed to do, or even attempted.

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    Another good example from that operation might be Dubawi, whose influence as a stallion suggests he should have achieved more on the track than his personal haul of 3 weakish G1s.

    You can’t draw that conclusion, genetics doesn’t work like that.

    in reply to: Racing on ITV #1245911
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    ..it wouldn’t surprise me if Paul Ostermeyer proves to be correct in his view that, like me, John Hunt could be a very likely front runner for senior race commentator.

    Me neither. I’m sure he’d jump at the chance of not having to work longside the abysmal Lysaght any more.

    in reply to: Racing on ITV #1245910
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    I’m not disagreeing with you about Sheikh Mo and I’m all in favour of interviewees in racing being given a much harder time than they currently are.

    However, if president A or premier B cancel some treaty or trade deal because they felt insulted by a sports interviewer, then in that instance it’s probably not worth it. “We may have lost out on a few thousand jobs, but I really stiffed him over his campaigning of horse X”, isn’t the smartest approach. Racing, like all sports, remains just a great triviality.

    in reply to: Racing on ITV #1245764
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    Here’s a hypothetical example: let’s suppose president Obama, the most important man in the world, has a racehorse in training in America, is over here on a visit, makes a visit to Ascot, and then gets slagged off in an interview about letting his horses run on lasix. How do you think that would pan out?

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    Hugo Palmer is a decent enough trainer and comes across as a pleasant enough character, but he’s had the huge advantage of coming from an extremely wealthy family – he’s actually The Honourable Hugo, he’ll be Lord Palmer one day.

    This has no doubt enabled him to not only get going in the first place, but also to keep afloat before he started getting some winners, not to mention knowing a few of the right people.

    Coincidentally, I saw another up-and-coming aristo trainer being interviewd the other day, this time Charlie Fellowes. I think he’s the son of another lord, this time Baron de something-or-other.

    If you want to get to the top in the UK as a flat trainer it certainly seems to help if you come from of the right sort of family, with a titled parent a special bonus!

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    Some horses can get a little stale and need a change of scenery and routine, just like people really. So you can get a horse moving from trainer A to Trainer B and getting a new lease of life, and another moving in the opposite direction and improving too.

    A smaller operation with more individual attention and fussing over may suit some horses too, although this obviously doesn’t apply in the case of Gosden and Varian.

    in reply to: Galileo Gold and the genetic test #1245267
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    Like Paco Boy it’s hard to believe a horse by Tagula such as Humphrey Bogart would come up with 12fs as his optimum distance with a test, neither would the breeding experts prior to it occurring of course.

    As I posted above, Humphrey Bogart has two older full siblings who stayed a minimum of 12f, and got further than 16f over hurdles, so I’d think that any breeding expert would think that he’d be cast in a similar mould.

    in reply to: Galileo Gold and the genetic test #1245133
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    On Galileo Gold, Tom Segal has called the early decision to swerve the Derby as ‘staggeringly strange’.

    Which, to me, translates as “I don’t understand science”.

    in reply to: Galileo Gold and the genetic test #1245132
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    It’s hard to believe Humphrey Bogart would pass the genetic test for The Derby,

    Why on earth not? He’s already shown he stays 1 1/2 miles, well within 100 yards of it anyway, so it’s very likely that would show up in the test.

    Both his full brother and full sister stayed well, albeit at a lower level than HB.

    In any case, this isn’t a geeky exercise in pedigree analysis, it’s science.

    It’s about time the bloodstock industry moved on from outdated ideas like dosage and nicks.

    in reply to: Rules Of Racing Suspended for 20 minutes #1244619
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    I’m not one that sees malpractice every time a horse gets beaten, but this was ridiculous.

    Hefferman could have won the race just by riding out the horse vigorously with hands and heels, never mind any questions about using the stick, instead of going through the motions.

    So I’m afraid the stewards well and truly bottled it.

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