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  • in reply to: Moonlighter #1690416
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    Well said Marlingford

    in reply to: Standing start #1690415
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    Backed Mr Incredible last year and today. Slipped saddle last year. Brought down this year (despite Racing Post maintaining he unseated). He was well behind at the start but I don’t think it made any difference. I thought it was as good a start as I have seen for a National

    in reply to: David Maxwell oh dear #1690411
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    Steeplechasing- yes
    Marlingford- I had exactly the same concerns about Waley-Cohen.

    It isn’t about individuals. It’s the indisputable fact that a horse is more likely to die on the racecourse if it isn’t ridden by a professional jockey. That some amateurs are regarded as as good as professionals isn’t in dispute but that doesn’t mean that amateurs should be indulging their hobby by risking human and equine lives in the international showcase of British jump racing.

    in reply to: Grand National 2024 #1690400
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    They are fanatics CAS. You cannot understand them.

    in reply to: David Maxwell oh dear #1690398
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    I hate this. Glad that Maxwell and his mount survived on this occasion but it’s the last thing racing needs. Racing is a dangerous sport. Greatest threat to its survival is fatalities (not whip use, which is inexplicably the focus of the BHA). A horse is more likely to die in a race if it is ridden by an amateur or conditional. This is an industry employing thousands of people, channelling millions into the treasury. It cannot be threatened by the “National Velvet” obsession of its archaic governing body.

    in reply to: Grand National 2024 #1690385
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    Moehat, these antis also oppose people keeping dogs and cats as domestic pets. There are people who have legitimate concerns about some aspects of horse racing and there are evangelical fanatics. The latter are a very vocal minority.

    in reply to: J.P’s horses #1690378
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    Mine too. Seems like team Mullins has better buyers. Sad that racing has come to this.

    in reply to: Grand National 2024 #1690374
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    Yep. And hope for heavy going!

    Mullins has plenty of ammunition for the trainer’s title. I would be surprised if I Am Maximus runs at Sandown.

    in reply to: J.P’s horses #1690367
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    Fair play to him. I struggle to understand the attraction of buying an already highly rated horse though. Proves nothing other than you’ve got more money than the other bidders. He has the means to breed the very best himself.

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    I like that idea Moehat. Not sure old Just So would get in even so these days though.

    in reply to: National fence views #1690364
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    But, if they are good enough, they can still win! Unlike a good jumper that falls/unseats once.

    in reply to: Aintree Competition 2024 #1690362
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    Well done Nathan and thanks to the Raymos for organising. Roll on the flat…

    in reply to: National fence views #1690357
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    Exactly. I Am Maximus isn’t a “poor jumper”. He isn’t a “fluent jumper” but that can still win a Grand National!

    in reply to: Grand National 40 to 34 #1690355
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    100%

    in reply to: Grand National 40 to 34 #1690350
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    The race has changed. Regardless of whether we think it’s a good or bad thing, it’s a fact and we’re not going back. I think this was the best National we’ve seen for a while and much of its appeal is because so many remained competitive jumping the last. In the past the race would be over, or between 2 runners by that point.

    in reply to: National fence views #1690344
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    He’s not THAT bad at jumping. Before the race, Ruby Walsh said he wouldn’t fall but tended to lose a length or so in the air and questioned whether that was sustainable over 30 fences. Obviously it’s more sustainable than jumping well but belting one and unseating/falling or just ruining whatever chance you had.

    in reply to: Meydan Thursdays #1690341
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    All good Jac. Many complain about it not being the spectacle it was but 20 odd still in contention at the last and quality horses filling the top places, plus all back safe above all, makes it a success in my eyes.

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