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Well, well Paddy Power got it all wrong and Ryan is on Clemmie. They made a hasty retreat and cut Clemmie to 3/1 for the Moyglare. So much for them having the magic ear for Ballydoyle activity.
Prices mean absolutely jack sh*t when it comes to Ballydoyle horses Steve.I fully expected Ryan to ride the best 2yo filly in the yard but like Nath says its all about Newmarket in May that counts.Clemmies Newmarket run last time out screamed Guineas winner to me and thats all I need to see,she would have won by 5 length had it been over 7f.
Clemmie is available at 4/1 for the Moyglare.
The betting is saying it’s time to man the lifeboats regarding Clemmie but it doesn’t always go to the script.
Steve you are always first in the lifeboats pal but thats what stops you from drowning…TAPK steers his ships across much stormier seas than this one but will sink with Clemmie as I rate her the best 2yo filly seen this year.
I have an American allie Joe for this years Hennessey at 16/1…
No idea what you’re talking about TAPK. Pretty sure that horse is going to run in the Ladbrokes Gold Cup. 😉
Yes ‘Soldier’ I should call The Hennessey ‘The Ladbrokes Gold cup’ as they are paying the sponsorship fee but I dont know the race by any other name sadly…I still call the ‘Mackeson’ in November the ‘Mackeson’ even though its had half a dozen names since..
Even Kim JU can’t finish TAPK off! Not wth the NH season on the doorstep.
You’ll be the Omega man . 🙂
I have an American allie Joe for this years Hennessey at 16/1…That should pay for my air raid shelter although ‘Brando at 12/1 could apocolypse the Sprint cup field too..If all else fails I’ll play my 16/1 Stradivarius on town moor as the missiles rain down on us.
It would be interesting indeed but I’d be surprised if they all turn up
Ryan would be on Clemmie though…….. 😉Best 2yo this year Nath,I only got 8/1 about her brother ‘Cburchill’ for this seasons 2000gns but i have 20’s on this filly for the 1000gns…My only concern is will Kim Jong-un blow the world up before the race,
Great preview as always Bob,I remember the days when Guy Harwood,Sir Michael Stoute and Henry Cecil could lay a 3yo out for this but those days seem over now.However if Mark Johnsons Time to study was to get in he’d be my choice but 25/1 tells you there’s little chance of him doing that.
Caravaggio is top price 11/10 and odds-on in most places.
Brando is 10/1 nrnb at bet365.Why?
Brando came from an even worse position in the July Cup.
Can understand if people think Caravaggio had better form at Ascot and more likely to stay so deserves to be favourite, but why that much difference?Bet of the weekend, no. Bet of the month.
Brando 10/1 each way.
Word perfect pal….So well written you would think I wrote it.1 Bet No stupid savers and you are collecting at 10/1..Not your usual 1/3..Yo the Man!
Ginge I’m not going to make you look a dick because I like you really but…Percentages mean nothing in the real world of betting on horses..
Do you look for a horse that you believe to be over-priced or not Gord?
My Higher Powers have found a horse tomorrow @ 25/1 that I believe is a fair 11/1 chance.
How on earth can you say any horse is a fair 11/1 chance you muppet?…That horse could go off 16/1 or 8/1 and neither price has any bearing on how it will run..A 100/1 horse can still win a 10 runner race just like a 1/10 shot gets beat in a 2 horse race.Percentages mean jack sh*t in horseracing terms..If 5 people sitting round a table play pass the parcel they have a 20% chance of winning,fact.If they play it 5 times they still have the same chance of winning irrelevant of the fact one guy has won it 4 times on the trot.Percentages only work in relative terms,they mean nothing in real terms regarding horseracing otherwise you wouldnt get winners SP’s ranging from 1/10 to 100/1 and thats why I love trying to get the biggest odds available and watching my horse return an SP way shorter..You may have a ‘Higher Power’ pal but you cant play my Stradivarius.
You and Gord just don’t understand percentages/markets.
Ginge I’m not going to make you look a dick because I like you really but…Percentages mean nothing in the real world of betting on horses..You know yourself your 100% books are only you looking at Oddschecker and tweaking things to suit.Have you ever noticed that you have never made a 25/1 chance a 7/1 chance in your book?Thats what will happen with GM Hopkins on Friday,he opened at 25/1 on the 4th July with Stan James and the King of foresight took it..e/w of course,that in your world would give him a mere 4% chance of winning….
4% my Arse.Come Friday he’ll have a 99% chance of finishing in the first 4 in my world.He’s still available at 16/1 now and thats a 7% chance to you but when he’s 7/1 on the day you will be saying he has a 16% chance and yet the horse hasn’t been seen on a racecourse since July 8th so in the real world his percentage chance of winning has never changed.If he does win those with the biggest Odds are the ones celebrating most not the fact he returns whatever percentage he returns pal.But all these bets are on the wrong horses. Where’s September in all this?
By Deep Impact out of Peeping Fawn
imo Come next year September may well need further than a mile.
In the Chesham, Nyaleti went faster than even fractions early and did well to stay on as well as she did. September won not by speed but by staying on. Slowing down at a lesser rate than the second. I don’t say Nyaleti would’ve beaten September had the rider got the pace right, do think she’d have been closer.September is a good filly, but the way that race shaped up allied to her middle distance breeding strongly suggests to me that she’ll be better at 10f+.
Added to that, September is tiny. Horses of her size are often best as two year olds.
You are capable of talking sense Ginge….Its only when you start that stupid numbers game you make yourself look daft…Watch Clemmie at Newmarket beating ‘Nyalati’,she was never out of 2nd gear,her ears were twitching and she was crying out for further.’September’ may have beaten ‘Nyalati’ further but ‘Clemmie’ beat her easier and has way more scope than the ‘Deep Impact’ filly.
The number of bets I have per race averages out at just short of three.
Dozen…
I thought everyone knew September is the Guineas winner?
Oaks winner MOM…Clemmie wins the 1000 gns.
Well if this thread doesn’t expose Gingers contrary views nothing will..Having 3 horses Ante-Post in the same race isn’t for you…What?..You could have 25/1,25/1,25/1 about Clemmie,Alpha Centauri and Nyaleti all of whom will go off single figures on the day and if one wins you are laughing..Of course come the day your 100% book will miraculously mirror whats in the Oddschecker box anyway and you will have 6 horses running for you in the same race all under 10/1…Your return on the race will be about 1/3,where’s the skill in that?…For the record I have one bet in the race and thats Clemmie at 20/1,hardly original but she is related to my avatar photo who won the 2000gns.
Have the two of them ever been seen in the same room?
Is it possible that…surely no?
Me with the legend of the forum…
Which one is you Gord?
I’m the one on the right pal wearing the Linen jacket,you can still see whats left of my original hair colour.
Have the two of them ever been seen in the same room?
Is it possible that…surely no?
Me with the legend of the forum…
I wonder if Jac would have fancied me back then?
All I can remember about having that done was watching Rousillon winning something at Goodwood in 1983 whilst my Gay Hairdresser abused me.I see Ginger and Joni are fast becoming the wind up twins….
You could run the below video every year, all you’d need to do is change or update one or two things
never gets oldhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VgjYI6NZGE&feature=player_detailpage
Hilariously true Nath….The bit about Steves arthritic wrist hindering him still cracks me up.