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My version of arc odds all in run
Stacelita – 5/2
Fame and Glory – 5/1
Conduit – 11/2
Youmzain – 7/1
Cavalryman – 10/1
Ask – 16/1
Sariska – 20/1
Vision D E-tat 22/1
Casual Conquest 40 – 1
100/1 bar in other words forget it!I disagree whatever harbinger did at goodwood connections believed he’d come on greatly for the run and he won with a bit in hand. He’s got bags of speed and i’d be very suprised if anyone turns him over in this race.
Harbinger looks a tough nut to crack and is a likeable sort who can only get better wil take all the beating
Lol if u ask me i think only youmzain (watch 2007 arc to see what i mean)has it in him to get catch her especially on softer ground where the horses will feel like they’ve got a truck on their back trying to catch her
i can only envisage RVW beating sea the stars in a race like the breeders cup classic
however without doubting mastercraftsmans battling abilities he lacks a finishing kick. No doubt he’ll be under pressure 2 furlongs from home and all one can see is sea the stars amble past him and score quite comfortably. As far as tartan bearer is concerned forget it.sea the stars probable programme ground permitting juddmonte international irish/english champion stakes breeders cup classic
RVW QE11 breeders cup classicThat is i forgot to mention with ground good or better not like goodwood which was described as good on some days but looked dead with fast ground horses like ghanaati struggling to show their speed
i think sea the stars and kingsgate native look pretty good a double might pay 3/4to1 with sea the stars likely to be odds on keep looking at the races can’t see them getting beat especially with kingsgate native showing a great turn of foot last time out.
If it did win i’d look at a combination f/c in ebor handicap involving changingoftheguard because i’ve got this funny feeling he’ll find 1 too good.
maybe warringhah red merlin hits only vic any others that stand out?If sea the stars is an ordinary classic winner how many good ones have there been? The last ordinary 1 i can remember must have been nashwan 20 years ago?
Sea the stars is the kind of horse that does it with the minimun of fuss and makes it look ridiculously easy. Look at the coral eclipse tracked a furious pace yet just cantered up at the 2 furlong as if he was on a racecoure gallop idled which he has always done was challanged and just said to RVW hey mate wer u going i don’t think so with conduit plodding on for third[/color:3v12ta4m]
RVW and conduit have both franked the at different distances combining speed and stamina.Something like Midday would look every bit a special as her racing against that lot and loo what Sariska did to her.
Stacelita will be eaten alive in the Arc IMO
That is actually quite funny do you mean the short head defeat at epsom? when on another day the result might have been different if the pacemaker can beat midday on heavy in a group 1 race doesn’t that sent off alarm signals as to the credibility of the race
More like sariska will be eaten alive in the arc with soft ground and on good ground she’ll be chasing shadowswhen did i say the form is great it clearly isn’t but goldikova apart who herself improved since the guineas and would’ve given zarkava a race had they met at a mile since then which great filly did zarkava beat? gagnoa? halfway to heaven? da re mi? conference call?
gagnoa and da re mi wudve had trouble beating the pacemaker in the arc
Stacelita is a special filly and to beat her you need a horse with an exceptional turn of foot like zarkava and the only horse i can see who comes close to even being capable this year is a fit and firing youmzain of 2007
keep backing the likes of casual conquest, ask, vision detat and tartan bearer the bookies love you more for iti really dont understand how stacelita can be that price , she has absolutely no chance of winning it , very slow animal without turn of foot [/color:ejx9bq71]
and diane form is poor
very nice lay
vision d etat the underated will go close i think[/quote
Well said hmm stalking a brisk pace with an unusual action crying out for a lot of cut in the ground taking over 3 furlongs out and effectively putting the race to bed with her cruising speed then idling in front albeit against some average horses but if that is a very slow animal then u tell me whats makes a fast animal? remember that was good ground and she cud be as much as 10 pounds better on soft
Also if vision d etat beats stacelita in the arc ill give up the sport myself
haha how ironic is it that 2 of zarkava’s biggest fans are trying to knock stacelita maybe the word jealous springs to mind?- AuthorPosts