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  • in reply to: Interference – have the rules changed? #175147
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    It does seem that very few horses get disqualified nowadays. I remember years ago two horses I backed, Vacarme and Sabrehill getting chucked out after hacking up in their respective races, both for bumping/barging their way out I believe. Vacarme was ridden by Lester and I believe it was the Richmond Stakes at Goodwood. I think that was when Daniel Wildenstein withdrew his horses from British racing/Henry Cecil but cant remember if it was as a result of the disqualification or for Henry standing by Lester? The Sabrehill incident was even more harsh as he was booted out for bumping Bobzao even though he trotted up by 6 or 7 lengths. Does seem a lot different/fairer nowadays.

    in reply to: Graham Bradley #174315
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    I used to like Graham Bradley…rode my favourite NH horse Bregawn to glory in the Cheltenham Gold Cup……..Kieron Fallon anyone?

    in reply to: Godolphin – Just another ‘ Newmarket’ stable? #174286
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    Thanks this venue seems a lot more civilised than betfair.

    I’m wondering is this the first year since about 1976 that the maroon and white will not feature in european horse racing at all. Has SM stopped sending horses to Mick Channon, Mark Johnston, Andre Fabre and John Oxx now as well. Bin Suroor must have an enormous string of two year olds.

    If you check on their website it lists their horses but only includes around 8 2 year olds. This presumably because the majority were unnamed at the time. You only have to look at their entries on the RP website to see that they have them entered up all over the place, indeed much more than Cecil, Stoute, Cumani, Gosden and other top Newmarket trainers. You would never seen them running 2 year olds at the likes of Thirsk, Warwick, Catterick etc…a few years ago.

    in reply to: Godolphin – Just another ‘ Newmarket’ stable? #174173
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    Welcome to The Racing Forum, Reference Point. 8)

    Colin

    Thank you. Long time lurking, decided to post to see if I had any views that anyone else actually agreed with!

    in reply to: Corrybrough & Bankable on Saturday 18th July #174099
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    ”To use the Passage of Time "Group 1" tag is totally misleading. As I have already stated, she won her Group 1 the season before last, and in every Gp 1 event since she has been beaten. Her form has been on a downward curve since the Musidora, and by scraping home in a weak looking Listed race, she hardly signalled a return to the Group 1 level of form you are implying”

    Firefox, I cannot agree with your argument here. POT (if you disregard her last run) had by far the best form on show in the race and was suited by the race conditions. I had a tenner on at SP and was delighted to see her start at 10/1 in a race I believed she was more than capable of winning. Granted she has been beaten in her Group 1’s since her two year old days, but take out the Oaks where she was ill and she ran two excellent races at the back end of last season in the Vermeille and Breeders Cup. Form far superior to anything else in the race.

    Her first run this season was over an inadequate 9f in a slowly run race where she ran 4th to a filly who has since been 2nd in a G2 and 3rd in a G1. Lord knows what went wrong on her last run but Henry obviously knew she still had it in her. I agree she may not win at G1 level again but in my view this race was well up to the standard of most of the G3’s about nowadays as I often feel the diff between G3 and Listed is negligible. I feel she would be more than capable of winning at G2 standard, indeed I feel another 2f will bring about more improvement later this season.

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