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Interesting but unsurprising article Matron.
I’m not at all surprised the daughter had something to do with it.
I suspect I’m going to be very unpopular here but that’s never worried me before.
I think the knighthood is OTT – am MBE maybe but not a knighthood. It’s more a case of Boris trying to be popularist.
There are thousands of people out there who tirelessly raise thousands, tens of thousands even more who get no recognition – nor do most of them expect it.
Yes he did raise a ridiculously large amount but it only happened because of the exploitation amd manipulation of the media – he just hapened to be a totum – at the end of the day it could have been anyone who was picked on.
I would venture to suggest had BBC Breakfast not picked up on his story and flogged it to death we would never have heard of him.
I wish the man no ill will, he seems a decent chap, and the money he has raised is magnificent.
However he has only come to prominence due to the mass hysteria generated by the media – it reminds me of the hysteria that swept the country when some woman died in a car crash in Paris in 1996.
Have you seen the article by and the interviews with Lord Sumption this weekend?
It’s actually very hard to disagree with what he is saying.
I don’t think there is any intention to make any vaccine compulsory.
Firstly any attempt for compulsory vaccination would be challenged, probably successfully, in the courts.
Secondly any doctor, nurse or paramedic vaccinating a patient without consent would lose their registration and their ability to work. I also think most healthcare professionals would be unhappy with any compulsory scheme.
There is a general principle, enshrined in law, that if a patient declines treatment (and they have mental capacity) that wish must be respected, even it is a patently wrong decision.
One thing people are are forgetting is racing behind closed doors isn’t a new concept in this country – it has happened many a Monday afternoon at Wolverhampton
None of those are true Socialism
It’s important not to confuse general NHS funding with the money raised for NHS Charities …. they are not exactly the same.
Most, if not all, NHS trusts have a charity attached.
Now some of the money does go towards improving mainstream services for the patients- for example in Milton Keynes the trust charity made a major contribution towards the new cancer centre but it was more geared to allowing the design to have en-suite rooms for the more seriously ill, so making life for patients better.
You will have seen in the news that many ICU’s and Covid-19 wards have iPads and tablets for patients to communicate with families, those would have been paid for by the charites.
So the role of the charities is to make life more comfortable for the patients.
Another MK example is providing the toys in the Paediatric A&E and wards.
Even the ambulance services have charities. I worked for South Central and the charity funds Community First Responders – including their equipment and training, community defibrillators, community first aid training. A small amount also helps staff, like providing microwaves in ambulance stations – although that’s now probably by-the-by since they stopped returning crews to base for meal breaks.
I also think the charities may also make similar contributions for staff in hospitals.
As an example, this is what the MK Charity does (only chosen because it’s my local one – other charities are available)…..
Some will say the NHS shouldn’t have to rely on charity and in an ideal world they shouldn’t – but we don’t live in an ideal world.
As I said in an earlier post, under our system we do not vote for a leader – leaders are expendable and if Boris steps too much out of line he’ll be disposed of …… fortunately the Conservative party has a record of dispatching bad leaders, May only survived as long as she did because of Brexit.
Even taking away ideology Corbyn, by no stretch of the imagination, was qualified to be Prime Minister – it woul dnever have happened.
Socialism is one of those ideologies that is great in principle but wholly unworkable in reality, it festers and encourages corruption ….. give me one example where it has worked in reality?
As George Orwell said “all pigs are born equal but some are more equal than others.”
Like virtually every animal species, homo-sapiens is a hierarchical species, which builds in inherent inequalities and you can’t change nature.
It’s not the doctors and nurses who have made the decision to withold treatments – it’s an NHS policy decision.
Some of these dancing videos have sent out strong messages about the importance of staying indoors.
It’s clear from your comment you have never worked in a front line role in the NHS and you’re fortunate enouth not to have experienced the stresses – these “narcissistic” dances are a way of unwinding and letting off steam …. if you get offended by these videos I hope you never come across some of the “closed” Facebook groups in the medical world. As for the black humore – well I won’t even start with that one.
Until you have held the hand of a dying stranger because they have no family with them ……
Until you have had a patient die despite you doing everything humanly possible (and beyond) to save them …..
Until you have driven an ambulance through rush hour traffic responding to a paediateric cardiac arrest ….
….. you cannot begin to understand the pressures front line health workers work under.
You do, thankfully, have the choice as to whether you clap or not and long may that be the case.
Please don’t, however, accuse those using some light relief to release the stress levels of being “disturbing and narcissistic” …. it’s grossly unfair on them.
the alternative is they have a breakdown and are no use to anyone, even worse they end up taking their own lives.
PS – this is not a personal dig at you – it’s just something that grates having worked front line myself and having dealt with all three of the incidents described above, plus many others. In fairness before I experienced front line work myself I would possibly have made the same observation as you.
Most front line workers are anything but narcissistic …… yes there are some but they’re usually outed by their coleagues.
GM I can see the point you are making but still do not believe it applies in this case.
Firstly, as I suggested in my original post, the applause is for the NHS workers not the Government or its policy.
Secondly, only the most dangerously fanatical party supporter would wholeheartedly agree with everything their party of choice does. Do you support everything your chosen party does?
I would never vote Labour because I despise virtually everything it stands for, it still doesn’t mean they are wrong 100% of the time though (just 90% – I’m feeling generous lol).
There have also been times when I have abstained in General Elections – despite being a natural leaning, even, dare I say, a Thatcherite Conservative – I haven’t liked the direction the party was going, Cameron and May wouldn’t recognise a political principle if it hit them in the face.
I don’t like or trust Johnson – he reminds me of Churchill, a highly flawed individual, only cares about himself, an average politician at best but a good orator – although the Covid-19 attack seems to have even taken the edge of Johnsons oratory.
I voted as I did because the manifesto was good and, most importantly, was getting us out of the God forsaken EU, plus the prospect of Corbyn and McDonald running the economy was too frightening.
Having said that, some of the financial decisions made by this Government must have Corbyn and McDonald creaming their jeans in delight.
Having said that I wouldn’t envy any Government, whatever their hue, having to deal with this crisis – they are in a no win situation, damned if they do, damned if they don’t.
All I can say is politicians must have massive egos, I wouldn’t want to do their job.
Going back to the NHS – yes most of the staff are underpaid, especially bearing in mind the responsibility they have, however they have always been underpaid.
It’s also very easy for opposition parties to make gestures when in opposition – it makes them look good without having the responsibility. How many above inflation pay rises did the NHS have last time Labour were in power?
Where will the money come from – 85% currently comes from general taxation, 12-13% from NI contributions and 2% from direct patient contributions.
What is the appetite of the general public to tax extra tax to support the increases?
I’m not saying the situation is right – just making the point the answer is not simplistic.
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Dare I say typical of “nationalised” industries, bureaucracy reigns and because, even at executive levels pay is poor compared with anywhere in the private sector, so the senior managers aren’t always the best, although there are exceptions.
In the ambulance service the joke is the “dangerous” paramedics are made managers to keep them away from the general public – certainly most managers have no understanding of man management – OK an extreme generalisation but, sadly, there is a grain of truth.
Also, ironically, for what is supposed to be a caring profession care for staff is virtually non-existent.
A damning report this week ripped apart management in the East of England Ambulance Trust after three members of staff committed suicide in a week.
Obviously there are some very good, caring managers but even they get stiffled by the system.
Some interesting party-political points being made.
I was under the impression the applause was for key workers not for the Government or Government policy – so comments about hypocrisy are simply disingenuous.
I voted Conservative and am proud of it, even though I have reservations about Johnsons suitability as leader but in teh UK we don’t have a Presidential system so I vote for a local MP not a PM, and I also support NHS workers, I even sometimes work for the NHS myself, so I know the horrendous conditions they work under.
The truth is no government, whatever it’s blue, red or blue and orange stripes, has funded the NHS properly …… mainly because it is impossible to fund properly. From its inception it’s been teetering on the verge of bankruptcy.
The NHS is the elephant in the room when it comes to politics, it is also a “national treasure” and in the UK attacking a national treasure be it the NHS, David Atenborough, Judy dench, afternoon tea is tantermount to being a capital offence.
The reality is, despite its amazing staff who mostly (I’ll make an exception for some of the so called managers) do amazing work in the most appalling circumstances, the NHS is no longer fit for purpose.
It was a brilliant concept at its inception and early years, but medicine has change exponentially in the last 70 odd years, the NHS has failed to keep pace with these advances and is not sustainable in its current form – it’s a money pit.
What is required is a Royal Commission to review provision of health care in this country – the trouble is no politician has the balls to run with it.
A purely state-run health service is not viable because the public will not stomach the level of taxation required to make it properly sustainable.
What is the answer – I don’t know – certainly not the American model? The Australian model looks good and seems to work, maybe an adaptation of that.
One good thing to come out of the current pandemic is it’s bought to the fore (and certainly into the public domain) some of the issues NHS staff face on a day to day basis, even when there is no pandemic.
Take PPE – it has long been an issue, long before Covid-19 was a twinkle is some bats eye …… last year I ended up as a hospital patient myself due to a lack of proper PPE whilst working on an NHS contract.
Southwell (Suv-all patriot1) is indeed a beautiful town – with a massive sandpit being the only blot on the landsacape, redeemed only by the NH track remaining inside the sandy track.
Epsom given the go ahead by the council to fence off the downs for the Derby and Oaks behind closed doors.
A dangerous move and it will be interesting to see if there is a legal challenge to the decision.
Closing off common land to allow a commercial enterprise to take place opens up a can of worms.
More pertinently it sets a precedent ……. having allowed this once, what is to stop the racing authorities repeating the same request in future years? That way they could charge admission to The Hill, or get the Downs closed off on their music nights, which they would love to do – they absolutely hate people listening to the concerts for free on The Downs.
Then, when the council says no, the racing authorities can claim precedent.
Oaks and Derby Day’s are the only two days the great unwashed can watch quality live racing at the track for free and anyone who has been on The Hill will tell you what a great atmosphere it is.
In these exceptional circumstances it would be better for the races, (if they have to be run at all – and I’ve yet to see any convincing argument as to why they should be) to be moved to Newmarket – it’s happened before.
The Coronation Cup is already being moved this year and there are plenty of examples of races being moved to different venues because of abandonments.
However I think the discussion will be academic anyway – by July we will be into the second wave and we’ll have, at least, the same restrictions we’ve been living under for the last six weeks.
At the end of the day ALL sport is a total irrelevance compared with a global pandemic.
The latest wishful thinking from the BHA