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  • in reply to: Classic Winners – Owners Colours #262142
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    backbarn is correct – "facings" are a smaller version of "braid" in that they do not go right across the whole chest. If you look in the B&H Racing Colours book, ex trainer Ken Cundell (K.S) has black facings in his colours drawn as such.

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    oh! and one more that has been bugging me the colours carried by 1979 St Leger winner Son of Love, owned by Alexis Rolland?

    in reply to: Classic Winners – Owners Colours #262095
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    Hi Isinglass,
    sorry to arrive late at the forum, but I am another anorak who has been investigating registered colours of big race winners – and whilst I have only attempted post war races, I have included Grand National, Gold Cup, Champion Hurdle and the Arc – none of which will help you much except:

    1. Jockey club publish a colours supplement each July and will send an electronic copy if you ask – helps for current day but not historic;
    2. Ruffs Guides pre 1980’s included all registered colours – some are still available on ebay and other book sellers (I am awaiting 1948 at present)
    3. The National Race Horse Museumare very helpful – they supplied me with some missing jumps colours
    4. Horse Racing Ireland (hri.ie)have also been helpful on specifics.
    5. http://www2.france-galop.com/couleurs/Default.aspx is in French but allows search of owners names and displays colours – excellent!
    6. I have some old racecards that have been a big help!

    My problem has been foreign trained/owned winners particiularly French & Irish!

    With regard to your gaps:

    Monade Oaks 1962 – George Goulandris – I contacted Castlemartin Stud (owned by the Goulandrs’) and their reply was:
    "The colours were black cap,medium blue top half,and yellow bottom half,however,
    there may have been a white star on over the half blue/half yellow at mid point on the front and back.(Those were George Goulandris’ colours in Greece,I am quite sure,but I dont remember if they were modified in France:ie) no star maybe?."

    Long Look 1965 Oaks – James Cox Brady – hri wrote to me:
    "Brady J. Cox – White, black sleeves, red sash & cap – altered to Red & white halved, black sleeves, red cap a bit vague!!

    Oaks 1952 – Friese – Alexander Keith – Ruffs desribes him as Capt A Keith and colours as Eton Blue. scarlet spots and cap

    1963 1000gns Mrs Gertrude Widener – some lists describe her as Mrs P Widener and Ruffs show colours as Red and White stripes, black cap – but couldn’t be certain they are the same

    I will investigate your list again (as most of it is outside my era of investigation) and come back with anythin I find.

    In the meantime, I am missing a few:
    Derby 1949 – Mrs M Glenister / Nimbus
    Derby 1946 – Mr J E Ferguson / Airborne
    2000 1977 – Niels Schibbye / Nebbiolo
    2000 1974 – Nonoalco / Maria Felix Berger
    2000 1965 Niksar / Walter Nightingall
    1000 1961 Sweet Solera / Mrs Magnus Costello
    Arc 1968 – Vaguely Noble / Wilma Franklyn
    Arc 1964 – Rex C Elssworth / Prince Royal
    plus some Grand NAtiona ones i’ll bore you with another time!

    Regards

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